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Morphy Slinging.org Moderator Offline Checkmate Posts: 8102	Hunting laws by state Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:42pm We had a thread up awhile back that showed hunting laws by state. Does anyone have a URL for that thread? I will be going on vacation to Missouri in a few days and if it's legal I would like to get a video of me hunting with a sling. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Hunting laws by state
Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:00pm

Here's the thread: http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1289700655/0

I don't have enough time to keep updating the list right now, so there is no information for Mizzou.

Here's how I look up the information: Search for "Missouri criminal code" on google and go to the official Missouri state website. Find the Missouri definition for slingshot and determine if a sling can legally be counted as a slingshot in Missouri. Then search for "Missouri hunting laws" and find what weapons are legal to use for each class of game, again only on the official Missouri state website. If slings fit into the the description for slingshots and slingshots are illegal then so are slings. If slings count as slingshots and slingshots are okay, then so are slings. If slings don't fit the description for slingshots and Missouri's laws list the weapons you aren't supposed to use, then the sling is legal so long as the law doesn't mention it. If slings don't fit the description for slingshots and Missouri's laws list only the weapons that you can use, then the sling is illegal unless the laws mention the sling.

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Pikåru wrote on Nov 19^th, 2013 at 6:59pm:

Massi - WTF? It's called a sling. You use it to throw rocks farther and faster than you could otherwise. That's all.
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DeeNewcum Tiro Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 11 Chicago, IL	Re: Hunting laws by state Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:40pm It would be nice if this were put on the wiki, so others could maintain it. It looks like the MediaWiki site was deprecated in favor of a PmWiki site? I'm much more familiar with editing and running MediaWiki sites, unfortunately.
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Re: Hunting laws by state
Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:58pm

Thanks Masi, that's very helpful.

Now for the weird part... Slingshots are legal for all sorts of small game. The season for almost all these small game animals will be in full swing while I'm there... BUT... unlike every other weapon mentioned, as to what is a slingshot is completely undefined. Every other weapon has a clear definition in the "Definitions" section of the code. The word slingshot never even appears in the Definitions section.

Could that be any more grey? Did they intend to leave the definition up to the user? Seems strange.

For anyone who may be interested... : http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp

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Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 2:14pm

From http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-7.pdf
Quote:

(J) Slingshot and atlatl. Slingshots may be
used to take wildlife (except deer and turkey)
during the prescribed hunting seasons, and
atlatls may be used to take wildlife (except
turkey) during the prescribed hunting seasons.
Darts containing any drug, poison,
chemical, or explosive are prohibited.

From "Weapon Offenses- Definitions" http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000010.HTM
Quote:

(15) "Projectile weapon", any bow, crossbow, pellet gun, slingshot or other weapon that is not a firearm, which is capable of expelling a projectile that could inflict serious physical injury or death by striking or piercing a person;

As slingshot is undefined, you have a case for use. Given that atlatls are legal and all other "projectile weapons" named in the Mizzou criminal code are specifically legal for small game hunting, you should be fine hunting with a sling. It is not technically legal nor illegal to hunt with a sling. Just don't become the case that gives slinging media attention and changes things.

While Mizzou's law is ambiguous, it is also the easiest the sort through. They actually have a search feature for their laws. Cheesy

DeeNewcum wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:40pm:

It would be nice if this were put on the wiki, so others could maintain it.

It looks like the MediaWiki site was deprecated in favor of a PmWiki site? I'm much more familiar with editing and running MediaWiki sites, unfortunately.

By not putting this on a wiki I can control the standard of the research going into the list. The moment this goes to a wiki I lose all control and anyone can edit the list using a bad source, which could get potential hunters in a lot of legal trouble.

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Pikåru wrote on Nov 19^th, 2013 at 6:59pm:

Massi - WTF? It's called a sling. You use it to throw rocks farther and faster than you could otherwise. That's all.
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Morphy Slinging.org Moderator Offline Checkmate Posts: 8102	Re: Hunting laws by state Reply #5 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 2:50pm Yes by not defining it specifically it really does seem that they are purposely leaving it up to individual discretion. Well... I guess all that is left is to get some good recipes together.
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Liberty dog Funditor Offline mobile pocket artillery Posts: 596 south carolina, usa Gender:	Re: Hunting laws by state Reply #6 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:42pm maybe the best way would be to find a game warden for your area and have a chat with them......since they are the people that will be giving you a fine or worse if its not allowed.......... you might even gain a convert or two to our cause
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Reply #7 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:46pm

Here in Alaska, I don think theres any prohibition against any hunting weapon, except a crossbow idk why must not be particularly effective for hunting, of course archery and firearms are allowed with proper training and legal age requirements. Young kids can hunt but of course with guidance from adults. Spears and other primitive weapons can be used, seems like theyre not in the regs, soo theyre off the books and its ok to hunt with atlatls or spears; people have checked with dept of fish and game and with the sate and its ok Wink

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Re: Hunting laws by state
Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:49pm

Liberty dog wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:42pm:

maybe the best way would be to find a game warden for your area and have a chat with them......since they are the people that will be giving you a fine or worse if its not allowed..........
you might even gain a convert or two to our cause Wink

Yep, I will be doing that before any actual hunting. Better safe than sorry. Most people call slings "slingshots" anyways so if I just approach it from the view that it's an "old" style slingshot and then explain it, hopefully it will be ok. The thing that makes me think it should be ok is the fact that they specifically decided not to define what a slingshot actually is, while everything else is defined, even atlatl... There is only one reason to leave it ambiguous in my mind.

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Re: Hunting laws by state
Reply #9 - Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:43am

Morphy wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:58pm:

Could that be any more grey? Did they intend to leave the definition up to the user? Seems strange.

For anyone who may be interested... : http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp

Welcome to large Govenment, where the interpretation of the law is pretty much up to them.

I would think if you had a farmer with crop damge from rabbits, squirrels, or groundhogs, he'd probably let you hunt there. For you it would be hunting, but it's technicaly just farm work.

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I was pretty good at slinging like 10 years ago.

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Re: Hunting laws by state
Reply #10 - Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:43am

pretty sure its legal here in texas its been a few months but when in read the booklet with all the and fishing regs i cant remember the name of it but i remember the weapon i was disapointed at not aloud was airguns Sad

also rimfire guns of any cal were banned it
but they did not define what weapons you could hunt with just those you couldnt

and dan i aggree with you completly thats just one of the many problems that comes with big goverment

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