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Sling from Mexican museum
Apr 16^th, 2011 at 10:20pm

Hey, check out this sling type from a mexican museum! The thread it's on is new so you can post on that one or post on this one, I thought I should post a link to it on here as I have never seen this type before and it looks complex, I'm hoping maybe someone like Timothy Potter might figure it out?

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mymothersmeatloaf Junior Member Offline Posts: 81 saint louis missouri Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #1 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 1:34am Quite an interesting sling....although I do believe the design is quite odd.
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slingbadger Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Don't Badger a Badger Posts: 3245 Akron NY Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #2 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 6:58am Very well designed. Does the display say whether the design is real or a best guess?
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Re: Sling from Mexican museum
Reply #3 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 7:31am

The Mexican Woven Pouch:

Its a standard braided fingerloop and retention cord until the pouch braids divide, and then each braid gets an extra cord braided in, doubling up one of the strands. One of them pops back out after a short distance, this will be used for weaving the weft (lower free cord). The other one jumps across to join the centre of other braid, is braided in until it is back on the inside and then jumps back over again. It finishes by being braided in and trimmed off just short of where the cords come together again (upper free cord).

I didnt get the same length of gap at each end because I am stupid and didnt check it. I put in a number of short wefts to fill in the center of the pouch where it is wider.

It pouches out under load perfectly, with tension at the sides and a soft center that holds rounded stones very well. The weaving cannot slide to the release end of the sling.This is a very good woven pouch design.

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Thabet Junior Member Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 60 Casablanca Morocco Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #4 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 8:05am A really nice job of sling building David .... is it your new fav sling? wish i had one like it . Hemp cord has been hard to find in Morocco so i am still held off of making the sling i want
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3489 UK	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #5 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 9:06am I went back and rebraided the release side to make the gaps at each end the same size. I have also tapered the release cord since the museum artifact is actually tapered on both cords. I wont bore you with more photos. Anybody else fancy making one?
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Steven Interfector Viris Spurii Offline RaptorIsAsRaptorDoes Posts: 2101 Austin, Tx. Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #6 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 9:22am David Morningstar wrote on Apr 17^th, 2011 at 9:06am: Anybody else fancy making one? Yeah ... But I'm entirely too lazy at the moment. It will have to wait until the next time I get the braiding bug.
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3489 UK	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #7 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 11:25am So I lied.. here are two more photos: The end gaps have been evened up. Tension molds it to the curve of the stone.
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timann Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2504 Norway Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 1:54pm Your replica really made sense, David. The sling was in fact rather clever. Will I make one...hmmm, I got some ideas for it, so I`ll see... timann
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Re: Sling from Mexican museum
Reply #9 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 2:15pm

There are two things I would do differently next time:

1. Braid the warp and weft cords into the retention cord before the pouch divides.

2. When the warp is done, braid the remaining warp cord up into the main release cord and terminate it there, beginning the tapering of the cord.

Nothing major, I just dont like having fluffy cord terminations in the pouch sides, they show up more there.

This still leaves one pouch side on the release end being thinner than all the others which isnt especially important but does offend my sense of symmetry. You could work the end of the warp into the weaving of the pouch somehow, but it would need to be very secure because the ends of the wefts pull hard on the first and last warps when the pouch is loaded.

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Reply #10 - Apr 19^th, 2011 at 1:59pm

I have made another one with the modifications I mentioned before. When taking the warp cord from side to side, this is what I did:

The warp cord is in the right hand pouch braid, doubled up with one of the others. When that doubled cord reaches the inside of the braid, separate out the warp cord, bunch the three braid cords and move them aside.

On the left hand pouch braid, arrange it so that the last crossover is inside-to-middle. Add the warp cord to this middle cord. Continue braiding one-two-three-four crossovers.

The doubled cord is now back on the inside of the pouch. Separate out the warp cord, bunch the three braid cords and move them aside.

On the right hand pouch braid, take the three cords and braid one-two-three-four crossovers. The last crossover is inside-to-middle. Add the warp cord to this middle cord. Continue braiding one-two-three-four crossovers.

The doubled cord is now back on the inside of the pouch. Separate out the warp cord, bunch the three braid cords and move them aside.

Repeat.

It was quite fiddly to do at first but once I worked out the best sequence it was plain sailing.

I have used ten and nine warp cords in my slings, the thickness of your cords and the size of the pouch you want will determine how many you need to use. I just eyeballed it. The length of the warp cord sections can be adjusted by pulling on them after the pouch is completed and the sling is fully braided. You only need to get it approximately right while you are braiding it in, you can fine tune it later.

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Slinging Lab man Novicius Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 9 Peterborough England Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #11 - Apr 19^th, 2011 at 3:10pm Think I might have a bash at this.Don't know how it will turn out but good job David,I really like this sling
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Bill Skinner past-moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3292	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #12 - Apr 19^th, 2011 at 7:03pm Very good job, you are an outstanding experimental archelogist, (hope those are spelled right). It is nice to see someone who can see a picture of an artifact and then recreate it. It is good to not loose all the old skills. Bill
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timann Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2504 Norway Gender:	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #13 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 9:36am Here is my test piece. Made`hurriedly from 3 mm hemp(darn the stuff is 2 - 5 mm and with nasty joints...). 29 ". Not tested yet. Should hold ammo vell. Like the original and Davids mine too is a bit rough. More useful than beautiful timann
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3489 UK	Re: Sling from Mexican museum Reply #14 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 9:39am Nice work!
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