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Reply #45 - Apr 10th, 2011, 1:28pm
 
That yoyo has a much more suitable sound than the whistling top,i think.The red Co2 canister has a very similar sound to the whistling top,but i'd like something more high pitched and louder,literally whistling,screaming.
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Reply #46 - Jun 5th, 2011, 1:51am
 
Hondero did you work on the subject lately? I've made some experimental ones,still searching,progressing slowly,but not giving up,here are 3 designs,that i'll test today.The one on the left is a hollow lead projectile with two 4.5mm holes on it's nose.The  middle one is a standard lead gland of mine with an aluminum sheet "bullroarer" hafted in it's tail.The one on the left is an 8g Co2 canister with a lead jacket on the outside,added for weight,and two 5mm holes on it's nose.The one on the left has a nice and loud whistle if i blow it,this design is the trickiest to make but if i find the hole size-cavity volume ratio it must work.
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Reply #47 - Jun 5th, 2011, 1:52am
 
From above:
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Reply #48 - Jun 5th, 2011, 4:12am
 
a golf ball with a hole through the middle whistles quite loudly, i would say about 7mm dia. pretty much anything that interrupts the air flow will make a noise. CO2 canisters work well tho, do u use flights to make them fly in a line?
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Reply #49 - Jun 5th, 2011, 7:35am
 
Quote from sam harrison on Jun 5th, 2011, 4:12am:
a golf ball with a hole through the middle whistles quite loudly, i would say about 7mm dia. pretty much anything that interrupts the air flow will make a noise. CO2 canisters work well tho, do u use flights to make them fly in a line?

 
I've tried clay balls with a 8mm hole through the middle,but as it rotates with a high RPM the air flow around the hole is a fast strobe like,and not so loud.I'm trying to make whistling glans for sling,that sound like whistling arrows.Noise making is easy,loud whistling that can be heard all the way is hard...i've made dozens of prototypes with only one being close to what i want.The ones i just posted pics,didn't work too well.CO2 canisters are hard to get them to rifle spin,and i wont bother putting flights on them,it doesn't worth it.So this project is still under development,it's more difficult to get it right than i expected.
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Reply #50 - Jun 5th, 2011, 2:15pm
 
Jlasud, nice to see you continue working in the project, your last designs looks very interesting. I have not deserted but recognize it is difficult and have taken a rest after making many designs and tests without getting the projectiles really to whistle loud. I have tested a lot of clay hollow projectiles, with a good hole at the point, of 1 cm approx, so that making them fly with some inclination they sounded like when you blown in a tube. They sounded very well when blowing, but when flying they only made a weak whistle. The problem is that at flight the air does not enter very much concentrate in the hole so as when it is blown. I´ve even tested a hollow projectile open at both ends, with a plastic whistle adapted in the interior, ha ha, and the problem is the same, an air flow very little concentrate. The advantage of an arrow is that it get always a perfect orientation at high speed, which is almost impossible to get with a sling projectile.  It is necessary to continue working, perhaps in others directions,  and if we were more people doing tests and designs it would be easier. Many people have theoretical good ideas but they do not make the projectiles and nor test them. I encourage them to do it. It is funny and would be fantastic that in slinging.org we were able to design a true whistling projectile. Perhaps it would be necessary to institute a prize to the innovation here, although it is an honorary prize,  Grin
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Reply #51 - Jun 6th, 2011, 12:08am
 
Hondero,i agree that it's harder than it appears,and also experienced that what whistles when blown might not whistle when slung.The orientation is not a big problem with glandiform projectiles sling with rifle spin,but I speculate that the huge RPM compared to an arrow makes things more difficult.As i wrote before,once i get a hollow clay one to make a quite loud and almost whistling noise,so we can know for sure that IT'S possible.It was the design that i posted a pic made in paint,with a cross sectioned clay glande.The two holes were about 5-6mm diameter and the volume of the interior cavity was about as a ping pong ball maybe slightly less.Perhaps other members would join for the cause,as this experiment already has a quite some experience and is a good way to success.Anyways i will continue to experiment until i can copy or improve the  performance of that whistling clay gland.
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Reply #52 - Jun 10th, 2011, 10:27pm
 
ok, imagine a clay glande, and on the exact  middle, ringing all the way around are  22 shells, thier open ends just barely exposedSmiley
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Reply #53 - Jun 11th, 2011, 11:50am
 
Quote from paracordslinger on Jun 10th, 2011, 10:27pm:
ok, imagine a clay glande, and on the exact  middle, ringing all the way around are  22 shells, thier open ends just barely exposedSmiley

Ok,i imagined it and it would be hissing but not whistling.Have you tried it,if so what happened?maybe my imagination is off from reality..
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Reply #54 - Jun 11th, 2011, 1:49pm
 
22 shells whistle loudly when slung. i will make one and try it. my imagining is that it wuold scream loudly as long as it is traveling fast enough.
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Reply #55 - Oct 12th, 2011, 4:54pm
 
I saw an intersting idea on an archery forum, it's a school project (I would have loved to have such a teacher !).  
 
They tried (and manage) to make whistling arrows... and I think their idea is adaptable to sling projectiles.
 
Here is what they've done.
 
It take a small container made of hard plastic, and we can use a fishing lead instead of the arrow's shaft, maybe nailed on to keep it from moving too much.
 
For the US inhabitants, the little plastic thing they used is something you can't import Tongue  
It's from an egg of milk and white chocolate with a little gift/toy inside the plastic egg. Great fun, blame the FDA  Grin
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I can't try it (can't find the right leads...), somebody is willing ?
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Reply #56 - Oct 12th, 2011, 4:57pm
 
How well does the film canister arrow whistle?
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Reply #57 - Oct 12th, 2011, 5:06pm
 
They put it in the picture of "very well", but their best one is a bit under, the two bottle caps glued together.  
 
 
Here we can hear them Smiley
 
And Here, many shots
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Reply #58 - Oct 12th, 2011, 5:12pm
 
I like the sound they make as they fly. It has a nice ring to it.
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Reply #59 - Oct 12th, 2011, 8:04pm
 
Years ago while in the army artillery reserve we fired many flare shells with our 105mm howitzer. As the flare with its parachute was blown out the rear, the shell being empty continued onto the ground while emitting a loud howl. This sound was coming from over 2 miles.                        
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