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Lycurgus Senior Member Offline [ch924][ch927][ch923 ][ch937][ch925] [ch923][ch913][ch914 ][ch917] Posts: 445 Coventry, England Gender:	Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:15pm I know we have some archers on here. Anyone fancy some of these? http://www.bronze-age-swords.com/aegean_swords.htm
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HurlinThom Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Leverage artillerist Posts: 1458	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #1 - Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm Gorgeous, actually. Maybe a little more precision made than the originals?
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leadrocks Senior Member Offline stay simple. serve god. live free. Posts: 337 custer city, oklahoma Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #2 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 3:02am very cool. wouldn't know the currency rates from japanese yen on there though. i know dollars. lol.
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jlasud Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Programming stones Posts: 2358 Transilvania Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #3 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 3:55am One thing must be wrong on the info.It says 30mm long which is ok but the weight of 2.5 grams is ridiculously light for a bronze arrowhead of that dimensions.They must be around 10-15 grams.
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Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 7:20am

I already knew that site, they make very accurate replicas.
They study a lot on archaeological foundings, just like every experimental archaeologist should do.
Still, their replicas are expensive.
I make iron arrowheads about 4-5 centimeters long and they weight 6 or 7 grams.
Since bronze does not deteriorate like iron does, it's easy to compare theire replicas with original arrowheads, just google the web for some and read their charateristics Wink

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Lycurgus Senior Member Offline [ch924][ch927][ch923 ][ch937][ch925] [ch923][ch913][ch914 ][ch917] Posts: 445 Coventry, England Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #5 - Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 2:23am I am thinking of getting one and making it into a pendant. What do you think?
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Mauro Fiorentini Forum Moderation Offline Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3442 Ancona, Italy. Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #6 - Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 11:36am That would be an original necklace! Go for it! Mauro.
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Paleoarts Interfector Viris Spurii Offline it don't mean a thing if you aint got that sling! Posts: 1993 oceanside, CA Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #7 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:11am HurlinThom wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:18pm: Gorgeous, actually. Maybe a little more precision made than the originals? actually, no. i've seen originals first hand. dug up by an archeaologist aquaintence of mine that are every bit as fine if not more so.
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Mauro Fiorentini Forum Moderation Offline Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3442 Ancona, Italy. Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #8 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 12:30pm The one in the left seem Chinese? The other has a shape I've never seen, what was the archaeological context? Mauro.
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HurlinThom Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Leverage artillerist Posts: 1458	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #9 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 1:01pm Chris, I meant that they looked like they had been dropped from a precision-machined mould. The point part closely resembles a rifle bullet, a perfect ogive. The ancients were capable of fine work, no question of that.
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Reply #10 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 5:00pm

That's for sure! Plus, those dealing with metals were almost considered Gods - they probably had nothing to think about but to work metals - others probably hunted for them, build their houses, and so on. So they had a lot of spare time to practice with metals, thus gaining a vaste knowledge and technique.
And don't forget that, from childhood to the grave, they did that job. After some decades of practice, everyone would be able to make such arrowheads.

By the way, during the Rennaissance, there was an ironsmith in Florence called "Il caparra" (caparra is the Italian word for deposit, it was his nickname, because he wanted to be paid before beginning a work). This ironsmith was so good that Lawrence the Magnificent often asked for his works, and a well famed painter such as Il Pollaiolo (http://www.storiadellarte.com/en/biografie/pollaiolo/vitapollaiolo.htm) used to prepare him some paintings, which Il caparra used as preparatory drawings for his iron creations!

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Paleoarts Interfector Viris Spurii Offline it don't mean a thing if you aint got that sling! Posts: 1993 oceanside, CA Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #11 - Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:16pm my friend is an archaeologist specializing in ancient Greece and he said they dig these up by the thousands every year. wherever a battle has been fought, they find arrow heads enmass. the cool thing was that they can tell which army was where by the type of head they used and the orientation they find them in.
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Reply #12 - Mar 1^st, 2011 at 6:26am

Yes, this is true!
About the orientation: it may be a useful method in diggings, but it is a non-sense if applied in recoinnances (and that's obvious).
In Central and Southern Italy (the ancient Magna Grecia), we actually found many bronze arrowheads, along with lots of Greek and Roman stuff, especially along the shores and underwater.
So these are Greek arrowheads? How interesting!
And why did he hafted them?
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Reply #13 - Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:30pm

Mauro Fiorentini wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 6:26am:

Yes, this is true!
About the orientation: it may be a useful method in diggings, but it is a non-sense if applied in recoinnances (and that's obvious).
In Central and Southern Italy (the ancient Magna Grecia), we actually found many bronze arrowheads, along with lots of Greek and Roman stuff, especially along the shores and underwater.
So these are Greek arrowheads? How interesting!
And why did he hafted them?
Greetings,
Mauro.

A few years ago my wife and I were in Italy, on a package tour. The director said that if one wanted to see Greek remains you had to visit southern Italy because everything in Greece had been stolen. Unfortunately we never got south of Rome. The side-trip to Pompeii got cancelled.

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fattybones Descens Offline That's not hail! Posts: 144 Halifax NS Gender:	Re: Bronze Trilobal Arrowheads. Reply #14 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 4:11pm Mauro Fiorentini wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 6:26am: And why did he hafted them? Only the last ones are arrowheads, the rest are swords. That's why he hafted them.
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