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Re: Ultimate Zombie Melee Weapon?
Reply #210 - May 15th, 2011, 5:23pm
 
Ranged of course. The farther from a zombie you can stay the better.  If it does come down to melee however, I would always prefer a double edged weapon.  It's just naturally more effecient.
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Reply #211 - May 15th, 2011, 9:08pm
 
Efficient compared to what? Axes are heavier and more unwieldy than swords.  If you use a polearm, it may be just as unwieldy, but it's unwieldy at a distance.  I wouldn't take an axe into battle.  I dint see the real advantage unless you're strong enough to swing it around quickly.  Swords are lighter and easier to use, and spears are even easier to use.  A bladed spear would be the best combination of spear and sword, and would be my choice.
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Reply #212 - May 16th, 2011, 12:29am
 
Quote from Samurismallz on May 15th, 2011, 9:08pm:
Efficient compared to what? Axes are heavier and more unwieldy than swords.  If you use a polearm, it may be just as unwieldy, but it's unwieldy at a distance.  I wouldn't take an axe into battle.  I dint see the real advantage unless you're strong enough to swing it around quickly.  Swords are lighter and easier to use, and spears are even easier to use.  A bladed spear would be the best combination of spear and sword, and would be my choice.

Axes aren't actually all that heavy, and are not much slower than swords. Now, if you had something shaped like what Ratman put up, then yes, you have a bunch of excess weight, but axes were deliberately made to be fast enough to actually fight with, which meant a relatively small single head.
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Re: Ultimate Zombie Melee Weapon?
Reply #213 - May 16th, 2011, 3:10pm
 
ok, that's a lot better.  I was thinking of the same thing he had.  It looks great, but it isn't much use.  I had a friend who had a good battleaxe with about a two foot handle.  i picked it up, and nearly dropped it, it was that light!  A good axe needs to be balanced, probably single head, am I right?
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Reply #214 - May 17th, 2011, 9:40am
 
Quote from Samurismallz on May 16th, 2011, 3:10pm:
ok, that's a lot better.  I was thinking of the same thing he had.  It looks great, but it isn't much use.  I had a friend who had a good battleaxe with about a two foot handle.  i picked it up, and nearly dropped it, it was that light!  A good axe needs to be balanced, probably single head, am I right?

Any melee weapon needs to be light and balanced enough to move fast enough to deal with a mobile target armed with another melee weapon. The axe is no exception, and as such historical axes had a single, smaller head, unless they were a specific type of axe that wasn't intended for combat. In general, axes intended for combat are much lighter than those intended for anything else, if chopping wood you need an axe with enough force to actually chop wood, which is somewhat tougher than skin, muscle, organs, etc. and it can't dodge so you don't really need that much speed.
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Reply #215 - May 17th, 2011, 4:41pm
 
True. Some people's ideas of a cool battle-ax are something that it would take three men to lift, let alone swing, with a head so oversized that it would do better as a shield.  I still prefer swords to axes, but I wouldn't mind an axe.  And I still think a bladed spear would trump an ax any day.
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Reply #216 - May 17th, 2011, 5:23pm
 
Quote from Samurismallz on May 17th, 2011, 4:41pm:
True. Some people's ideas of a cool battle-ax are something that it would take three men to lift, let alone swing, with a head so oversized that it would do better as a shield.  I still prefer swords to axes, but I wouldn't mind an axe.  And I still think a bladed spear would trump an ax any day.

I'd say that depends on the wielder. I personally would prefer a bladed spear, but then whenever I'm doing armed sparring -with blunted arms, which are a bit different- I gravitate towards lightweight polearms which can both cut and thrust well. The bladed spear (sword staff is arguable a more accurate term) is one of these, the partisan another. Other people I know are much better off with an ax and a shield, and some of them can use fairly heavy arms. Said people are pushing two meters in height, but even then they favor a slightly different balance than I do. It comes down to personal preference.
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Reply #217 - May 17th, 2011, 8:44pm
 
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Re: Ultimate Zombie Melee Weapon?
Reply #218 - May 18th, 2011, 10:04am
 
What melee weapons do you own, right now, not plan to get, have in your house right now?  How well can you use it?  How much training have you had?  I don't mean copy what you see in a movie or off Youtube, I mean formal or informal training from an instructor who knows what he or she is doing and can instruct someone in one of the proper forms?
 
It takes a great deal of energy to fight in a melee, one of the most important things a proper form does is let you use the minimum amount of energy to dispatch your opponet quickly.  If you don't have training, you tend to flail around and exhaust yourself in a couple of minutes, then you get killed while you are gasping and wheezing or in the case of zombies, eaten alive.  Bill
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Reply #219 - May 18th, 2011, 5:09pm
 
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What melee weapons do you own, right now, not plan to get, have in your house right now?  How well can you use it?  How much training have you had?    

 
 
I have a machete that I use almost every day and I am very familiar with. Depending on the type of zombie it may be effective or it could be a hindrance.  I also have one of those Cold Steel Irish Walking Sticks, going for head shots on a shambler it would be fine, rage or other virus zombie it wouldn't be of much use.
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Reply #220 - May 18th, 2011, 8:53pm
 
Flamethrower, end of story. Cool
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Reply #221 - May 18th, 2011, 11:26pm
 
Which one, the M3 or the M8?  What type of fuel, light or heavy?  And what are you going to do when your 30 seconds of fuel is gone?  I trained on those, we were happy to see them go.  When you carry one of those, nobody wants to hang out with you anymore.  Bill
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Reply #222 - May 19th, 2011, 10:51am
 
As far as ultimate melee weapons, I have a tractor and a bush hog.  Bill
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Reply #223 - May 19th, 2011, 11:29am
 
Quote from paracordslinger on May 17th, 2011, 8:44pm:
pasma cutter, a the way. can you imagine what woud happen to someone bing seared by a pam acutter fron 1 foot away
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Reply #224 - May 21st, 2011, 2:20pm
 
Personally, anything that uses readily available ammo, or none at all, is the best, like a sling, guns use bullets, cant find those just lying around, and they have a shelf-life. so then theres the bow and the atlatl, they need arrows, which can be incredibly effective, but youd have to retrive them, or keep making more. then theres the sword(katana or longsword in this case), it dosent need reloading, but it means that you have to get closer, but lets say we use a short-sword or a knife, the rule I use is, "stabbing distance is biting distance." but to each his own.
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