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Dec 4th, 2010 at 11:24pm
 
I recently became interested in Quarterstaves, since they seem to be a popular weapon in books.  I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a 6-7 foot quarterstaff, preferably ash.  If you do, post it here.  Any other ideas can be posted here as well.
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Reply #1 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 1:22am
 
Making a quarterstaff is easy. Just find yourself a sapling of the type of wood your looking for. No knots or branches and as straight as possible. Ash grows as straight as you could want so that shouldn't be a problem. Cut it, debark it and dip both ends in lacquer or paint 4-5 inches. Clamp or tie it down with inner tube strips to a stout board along it's entire length to help it dry straight then find a warm dry place to let it cure. With Ash the clamping is optional though it can help. If the tree your using has very straight grain there is no need. Once it's cured for 3 days put a fan on either side to speed up the drying. If it warps badly, which is unusual with ash you can heat bend it straight.

You can also buy yourself a hardwood board and make one from that. Much faster but not quite as satisfying.
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Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 7:36am
 
Not sure where in the world you are but you might like this http://www.quarterstaff.org/
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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 8:32am
 
I live miles away from any trees I could cut down (legally), so getting it from a tree would be tricky.  I have heard oak makes a good staff, but I'm not sure.  Also, I was thinking about putting iron caps on the ends so it doesnt wear down and it will have an extra punch.
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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 10:20am
 
How come noone ever talks about halfstaves, threequarterstaves, or the dreaded wholestave
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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:36am
 
dork wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 10:20am:
How come no one ever talks about halfstaves, threequarterstaves, or the dreaded wholestave

Grin The quarter in quarterstaff probably comes from the root word meaning "house" or "protection" (as is "give no quarter") and not a measurement. There's even an eighthstaff called the hanbo, but I think that most other polearms count as wholestaves. Wink
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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:38am
 
dork wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 10:20am:
How come noone ever talks about halfstaves, threequarterstaves, or the dreaded wholestave


Do those even exist?
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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:49am
 
Samurismallz wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:38am:
dork wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 10:20am:
How come noone ever talks about halfstaves, threequarterstaves, or the dreaded wholestave


Do those even exist?

It's a joke, quarterstaves are short polearms so regular polarms are wholestaves. They just won't be 4 times larger than quarterstaves.
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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 5:04pm
 
Ok.  Thanks for clearing that up.
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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 5:46pm
 
there are these Staffs in every business of fight sport article. In the original they are angular eight and from hard fell trees made.

these staffs are very difficult. To practice they rather take rattan staff.
these are less painful
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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 8:56pm
 
Also, does anyone have any good ideas on how you would use a quarterstaff to fight?  I guess that there would be a certain way to hold it to avoid injury, and there would be different techniques depending on the size, weapon, and technique of your opponent or opponents.
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 9:10pm
 
The staff has been used as a weapon in many different cultures, and all have developed specific fighting techniques.  The Japanese call it a "bo", and thus "bojutsu".  The technique is influenced both by Okinawan "ko-budo" (ancient weapons) and by traditional Japanese use of battlefield weapons like the iron staff.
Europe had it's own traditions, of course, witness the famous "duel" between Robin Hood and Little John.  The staff was widely used for both personal defense and in warfare.
The Chinese and the Filipinos have well-refined schools of staff fighting.

In short, there's plenty of material to study.  The Filipino styles are extremely practical and the principals apply to other weapons.
Chinese staff work I've seen lately is very formalized and gymnastic, and doesn't look very practical.
The Okinawan-derived methods are pretty solid as well.
Here's a book I just found as the first Google hit on European staff fighting:

http://www.thearma.org/staffbook/staffbook.htm

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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 9:12pm
 
Samurismallz wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 8:56pm:
Also, does anyone have any good ideas on how you would use a quarterstaff to fight?  I guess that there would be a certain way to hold it to avoid injury, and there would be different techniques depending on the size, weapon, and technique of your opponent or opponents.

There's always bojutsu, and apparently the British have some sort of quarterstaff fencing.
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Reply #13 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:53pm
 
HurlinThom wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 9:12pm:
There's always bojutsu, and apparently the British have some sort of quarterstaff fencing.

The French have "La Canne de Combat" or "The Fighting Cane" as well as "Baton Francois," the Portuguese have "Jogo do Pau" and the Italians have "Juego del Palo" which both mean "Game of the Stick." The English systems are called "Singlestick," "Quarterstaff" (the English name isn't very creative) and "Bartitsu." All of these styles treat the stick as a long, blunted sword except for Baton Francois and Quarterstaff.

Indian quarterstaves come in two varieties, one which is like the rest of the world, straight and slightly longer than the users height; and another which is about one and a half times the users height, but s-curved so that from tip to tip it's the same length as the first.
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Massi - WTF? It's called a sling. You use it to throw rocks farther and faster than you could otherwise. That's all. 
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Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 7:57am
 
If I were to  buy one I would get it from a martial arts magazine, although thier knives tend to be very poor quality you usualy can't go wrong with a piece of wood  Wink . I also had a friend who picked a good one up from a renisance fair but if you have the opertunity to inspect it make sure it doesn't have any cracks . as a last ditch effort a 6ft piece of eletrical pvc should work okay. (Note these are flexible, but the chinese monks also used flexible staffs which still packed a whollop but were less likely to kill)

Check out hempevs channel on YT and he has lots of good videos on using oainown weapons such as he tonfa, nunchucku and also bo
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