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May 23rd, 2009, 10:37am
 
  Some of you read my "Experiment" thread.  I generally carry two slings, one long (5 1/2 ft) and one relatively short. (2 1/2 ft)  I wanted to create an in between sling so I could carry just one.  Last night I made Kathy, which is a shorter version of Linda, my experiment sling.  Linda is 5 1/2 ft and Kathy is roughly 3 ft.  
    As you can see, the pouch on both is just a single strand.  I've been totally surprised at how effective this type of sling is.  This morning I took Kathy out for the first time.  She was short enough for me to easily chuck rocks Apache style.  I was able to twirl her rather easily also.  I was getting average shots of about 90 yards with some of the better ones at 120 yards using a wide range of rock sizes.  
   Most of the shots had that whistle then loud snap sound but the icing on the cake was that three times she cracked loudly, like a gun shot.  I'd only ever achieved this effect once before with a slightly shorter sisal sling a few months ago. (Selena)  
    I wish I could convince everyone here to try a sling like this.  They're easy to make, hold a variety of sizes of rocks, are adaptable for many different styles of slinging, and can be made to explode like a gun shot.  At least for the time being this will be the Rat Man Sling.
    To make one simply make an Appu-sling per Malik Lund's tutorial here out of a good stout cotton cord.  Make the pouch about four or five inches long.  Then, using a piece of the same kind of cord weave the pouch through the three strands.  Make certain that you weave the pouch as tightly as possible.  I use a screw driver to jam through the last few weaves.  Whip both ends of the pouch to secure the loose tags.  Tie what ever kind of finger loop knot you like.. I use a simple slip knot, then whip it to hold it in place.  I use West Coutry Whipping, buy any style will work, of course.  It takes about a half an hour to make one.   I temporarily taped the whipping down until we can find where the glue gun is lost in this debacle of a livingroom.  
    Again, I'd love to be able to convince everyone to try this type of sling.  You'll only have to invest an half an hour and you'll probably really like it.  
    Attached is a picture of Kathy.
 
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Reply #1 - May 23rd, 2009, 10:42am
 
Here's one of Linda, the original experiment.  She's got double whipping for extra weight around the pouch. I found that this really didn't make much of a difference and won't do that with Kathy.  As stated, Linda is 5 1/2 feet long and Kathy is approximately 3 feet.
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Reply #2 - May 23rd, 2009, 10:53am
 
OK. You have convinced me. It's very nice and simple. Maybe this weekend I'll do Catalina, the transoceanic version of Kathy.
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Reply #3 - May 23rd, 2009, 11:25am
 
I'm sure you'll like it and in the unlikely event that you don't you've only wasted about a half an hour.  Its beauty is its simplicity and effectiveness.  Also that gun shot sound is way cool.  I imagine that as the end frays more it'll become easier to achieve.  Odin, my big white male Husky, is extremely gun shy.  He gave me sort of an evil eye the second time it happened but I guess the sound was different enough from a gun for him in that he didn't totally freak out.  My goal is to be able to get that sound every time.
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Reply #4 - May 23rd, 2009, 11:34am
 
Next I'm going to attempt this sort of concept in a braided Rockman style sling.  I'm not exactly sure how to do this, but I'd like to check out the effect of a soft, supple, thin braided jute retention and release cord with the heavy cotton single strand pouch.  Perhaps not separating the three sets of two strings into the two sets of three to make the pouch, but instead leaving them the three sets of two and weaving them across that way would work.  I'll try it and report back.
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Reply #5 - May 23rd, 2009, 2:00pm
 
i really want to but i don't have thick enough cord for it
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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2009, 2:28pm
 
Sometimes a roll of cotton or something like cotton will turn up in the dollar store, kid.  
   I did it... I made a Rockman sling with a Rat Man pouch.  I don't want to photograph it yet because it's a bit tight.  With it in mind that it'll loosen up during use I braided it and wove it very tight, so it'll appear a tiny bit misshapen until I use it later this afternoon when the Huskies wake up for their walk.  Wow, this is weird... I never measure anything, just eyeball it up.  The new sling is exactly the same length as Kathy.  Hopefully that'll help my accuracy.  I'm very curious as to how this new guy will perform.... more on that later today.
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Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2009, 7:04pm
 
The new sling, Jean, was a bit stiff, as I expected.  I tried to break her in with heavy rocks using the Apache style.  I got a bit of it done but it was too hot for the Huskies and I had to get them home.  I think as she breaks in she'll be fine but I still like the Rat Man slings best.  I have to walk the dogs again now that it's getting cooler.  I'll try to get a picture posted tonight.
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2009, 1:42pm
 
We Spanish say “What is promised is debt”: Here is Catalina. I do not know if she will work fine, but, certainly, she is pretty.
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Reply #9 - May 24th, 2009, 6:06pm
 
That's the ol' sheepshank three-strand sling that was the first serious sling I learned how to make.
I found that it wasn't reliable enough for holding ammo, so I came up with the five-strand version, the tutorial for which is now (thanks to Chris) on the "advice and how-to" page of this site.
 
Rat Man, if you like this one, I think you'll like the other one as well--possibly even more.  Have you seen/tried it?
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Reply #10 - May 24th, 2009, 6:26pm
 
I can recommend PJ's five-strand. I usually prefer the natural materials for my slings, but I was looking for something for every weather, heavy duty and easy to make, so I stumbled over the 5-s-tutorial. Two pieces of cordage, 15-20 minutes, and that's it. Great sling!
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Reply #11 - May 24th, 2009, 7:15pm
 
Beautiful, Pio.  I think you'll enjoy Catalina.  I just got back from walking the dogs with Kathy and she made the gunshot sound every time.  It gets a lot of attention.  The fraying on the release cord has grown to about two inches now.  I don't know if it's that or I've just gotten more used to her but it sure is fun.  I hardly care about the accuracy now as long as I get the explosive sound from her.  
   Interestingly enough, PJ, one of the things I like best about this sling is how it holds a variety of rock sizes dependably, at least for me.  Maybe it's because the cotton I'm using is a bit thicker than parracord.  Perhaps now that your more experiences you would have better results if you tried it again.  I have seen your tutorial on the five strand version and it looks very good.  In fact, I'll try it now.  I wonder if jute would work.  If not I'll have to break down and purchase some paracord. I'll have to finish off the pouch differently if I use jute though in that it won't melt.  I'll just whip the left over tags to the retention and release cords in that I add the whipping anyway.  
   Thanks for the tip, PJ and Fundibularius.  I'll let you know how I make out.
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Reply #12 - May 24th, 2009, 7:28pm
 
Good job Rat man. Your own design is bound to be the most efective for you.
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Reply #13 - May 24th, 2009, 7:39pm
 
There is definitely something to be said for making any (even minor) personal touch to your own sling.  Pride of design and ownership, you know?  Cheesy
 
Out of curiosity, I have to ask: what's with giving the slings ladies' names?  Huh
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Reply #14 - May 24th, 2009, 10:54pm
 
  Actually, they're not all ladies.  I also have a Junior, Craig, Greg, and Karl.   If a sling is particularly thin I'll name her after a thin woman I know, if she's long I'll use a tall girl's name, a very good looking sling gets a good looking woman's name, or if it's got a big pouch I'll name her after a girl with a big... er... neck.   If it's stupid looking I'll name him after a stupid guy I may have known, etc..  I know it's weird, but you asked.
   OK, I'm just finishing up my first peacefuljeffrey sling.  Hopefully you'll recognize it as being made from your design.  The pouch is sort of canoe-like, but that may not be a bad thing as long as I can find canoe shaped ammo.  When finishing the pouch the outer strands were longer than the inner ones, so I had to be a bit creative but it's symmetrical so it doesn't look like a mistake.  I can't take a picture until tomorrow when I buy new batteries or find the missing ones for the camera.  
    Your prediction about me preferring this design may come true.  My original purpose for designing the Rat Man sling was to make one with a heavy pouch to launch small projectiles.  I even considered running a line of lead down the back of the pouch for extra weight.  The pouch of your sling is noticeably heavier.  Maybe I made it too big.  I'll know tomorrow.  
   Actually, the canoe shaped pouch may be an advantage.  If it flys into the lake it'll probably float.  
   Thanks again for the suggestion.
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