Slinging.org Forum - Do you have favorite finger loop, release knots?

peacefuljeffrey

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

Peace through superior
slinging power!

Posts: 2700
West Palm Beach
Gender: male

Do you have favorite finger loop, release knots?
Sep 10^th, 2008 at 8:28am

I am relatively new to slinging, although I have made a few successful slings with paracord recently. (Pictures posted in the picture thread.)

I am a knot-tying aficionado, and so I do have "favorites."
I don't suppose that there are any "best" knots for use in slings. For loops you could use Bowlines and a host of others. For release knots you could use Multiple Overhand Knots, heck even a small Monkey's Fist.

For my slings, I use my two favorites for this purpose: the loop is a Longbow Knot, and the release is an Ashley's Stopper Knot.

Do you have favorites? What are they? Do you believe them to be particularly well-suited to or necessary to your slings, or are they really just personal preference?

Back to top

Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true

IP Logged

TimdaSling Descens Offline wach my sling!! Posts: 131 Heerenveen, Nethelands Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #1 - Sep 10^th, 2008 at 11:01am I don´t know a lot about knots I just knot something so it lookes good. but I do use a very simple loop knot and the releas knot is `just a knot`
Back to top	IP Logged

David Morningstar

Slinging.org Moderator

Offline

Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 3419
UK

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #2 - Sep 10^th, 2008 at 1:36pm

I have had a good furtle around on the interwebs and I cant find a 'longbow knot'. There are plenty of references to a 'bowyers knot' which is a timber hitch used to secure a bowstring but I'm pretty sure this isnt the one you show in your pictures.

I mostly use perfection loops and double overhand stoppers on single cords. I recently learned the Matthew Walker to make the release knot for a braided sling.

[EDIT]

I think I have found it here: http://www.marinews.com/Honda-Knot-760.php

And, since Honda is the Balearic word for sling, I reckon its perfect for the job

[EDIT AGAIN]

Okay, the Honda isnt what you are using. Fess up, how is it done?

Back to top

IP Logged

Thomas Senior Member Offline Rocks? Posts: 292 NORTHEAST OHIO Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #3 - Sep 10^th, 2008 at 3:38pm I believe the Castilian (common Spanish) word for sling is honda and the Balearic (Catalan) word is fona. tom
Back to top	IP Logged

David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3419 UK	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #4 - Sep 10^th, 2008 at 4:50pm Fona, honda and bassetja are all used on the islands to say sling. Honda is the general Spanish word. I only specified Balearic to increase the slinginess of the reference And if slinginess isnt a word, it should be
Back to top	IP Logged

peacefuljeffrey

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

Peace through superior
slinging power!

Posts: 2700
West Palm Beach
Gender: male

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #5 - Sep 10^th, 2008 at 8:29pm

David Morningstar wrote on Sep 10^th, 2008 at 1:36pm:

I have had a good furtle around on the interwebs and I cant find a 'longbow knot'. There are plenty of references to a 'bowyers knot' which is a timber hitch used to secure a bowstring but I'm pretty sure this isnt the one you show in your pictures.

I mostly use perfection loops and double overhand stoppers on single cords. I recently learned the Matthew Walker to make the release knot for a braided sling.

[EDIT]

I think I have found it here: http://www.marinews.com/Honda-Knot-760.php

And, since Honda is the Balearic word for sling, I reckon its perfect for the job

[EDIT AGAIN]

Okay, the Honda isnt what you are using. Fess up, how is it done?

I'll post a photo that I have on my computer at home, later on tonight. It's the only source I ever found for this knot, actually. And I thought I had lost the picture I had of it and then found it again (I was very relieved!).

I am indeed familiar with the knot you supplied the link to (animated knot). I know that one as the Archery Loop. It's a good knot. It's not, however, the "Longbow Knot" that I will show you later on.

Back to top

Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true

IP Logged

peacefuljeffrey Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Peace through superior slinging power! Posts: 2700 West Palm Beach Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #6 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 9:58am Here are the two photos from which I learned this most EXCELLENT LOOP KNOT. I don't know the origin of the photos. I think I found them on a knot-tying Yahoo group some years ago.
Back to top	Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true IP Logged

Thomas Senior Member Offline Rocks? Posts: 292 NORTHEAST OHIO Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #7 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 10:45am It’s a “keeper” whatever the name. tom
Back to top	IP Logged

timann

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 2504
Norway
Gender: male

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #8 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 11:01am

Hello, peacefulljeffrey, thanx for the knot. It seems wery nice. So, today I have learned something new Wink

.
My non-braided slings have a double bowline for the loop, and a double overhand stopper knot.
My braded slings these days end in something called a wall knot, it holds surpricingly enough even on synthetics.

I will keep your longbow knot on the end of my pocket-piece of paracord and see how it behaves.
timann

Back to top

IP Logged

peacefuljeffrey

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

Peace through superior
slinging power!

Posts: 2700
West Palm Beach
Gender: male

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #9 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 8:04pm

Timann, I predict that it will do well.

As the text says, it is easy to undo if necessary. Easy to adjust the length of the loop for different fingers, too. Just leave about 3/4" of free end after the loop and you can make it larger in a matter of seconds.

I will see about posting pictures of the Ashley Stopper Knot with instructions, because it too is a good not for use in slings.
A main reason I favor using it is that my using it pays reverence to Clifford W. Ashley, who gave us The Ashley Book of Knots (or "ABOK").

If you don't want to wait for me to get around to posting pictures of the Ashley Stopper Knot (it will take me a few days because I am getting ready to go on a vacation trip), you can probably find it online.

Back to top

Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true

IP Logged

peacefuljeffrey Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Peace through superior slinging power! Posts: 2700 West Palm Beach Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #10 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 8:06pm Thomas wrote on Sep 11^th, 2008 at 10:45am: It’s a “keeper” whatever the name. tom It certainly is. I am very glad you guys like the knot. It's excellent. I tend to really like knots that are based on the Overhand Knot, like this one.
Back to top	Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true IP Logged

wanderer Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 1360 Texas Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #11 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 9:09pm It's amazing that such a knot seems so little known. So simple once you see it! It will certainly go on to my list of essentials. Given the name, is it supposed to date back to use on the English Longbow?
Back to top	IP Logged

Burner Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Take me out to the ball game........ Posts: 1238 Northeast Florida Gender:	Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot Reply #12 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 9:22pm Very simple to tie!!I learned it in seconds.Thanks.I also appreciated the link to the Australian fishing website.
Back to top	Cleveland Rocks! IP Logged

Steven

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

RaptorIsAsRaptorDoes

Posts: 2101
Austin, Tx.
Gender: male

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #13 - Sep 11^th, 2008 at 10:47pm

looks like an ABOK #1029 I'll have to get some line and tie it to be sure though

Definitly not an ABOK #1029 ... infact I can't find this knot in the abok .... a keeper
for those of us who are Knot-Heads....

I use the ABOK 1047 tied with the bight (Flemish Knot AKA Figure-8 Knot)

ABOK = Ashley Book of Knots 3800 + line drawings of various knots, etc. in a very large coffee table book

I use http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1146162295/0#0 a sheet bend to attach the pocket material
sometimes a double with two turns of the line around the leather

and a button knot ABOK 787 Bosun's Whistle Knot as the release cord terminator most of the time

Back to top

« Last Edit: Sep 17^th, 2008 at 5:51pm by Steven »

A Curmudgeon@Large Civilly Fomenting Anarchy one post at a time...I don't like it is not a valid reason and Everyone knows is not a valid rule...Hi Ho, Hi Ho Its Off To Work I Go; As Ci-vi-lly As I Can Be Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Hi Ho...

THIS ADVICE IS WORTH WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT.

IP Logged

peacefuljeffrey

Interfector Viris Spurii

Offline

Peace through superior
slinging power!

Posts: 2700
West Palm Beach
Gender: male

Re: Do you have favorite finger loop, release knot
Reply #14 - Sep 12^th, 2008 at 12:46am

Steven wrote on Sep 11^th, 2008 at 10:47pm:

looks like an ABOK #1029 I'll have to get some line and tie it to be sure though

I use the ABOK 1047 tied with the bight (Flemish Knot AKA Figure-8 Knot)

ABOK = Ashley Book of Knots 3800 + line drawings of various knots, etc. in a very large coffee table book

I would nominate ABOK as the greatest coffee table book of all time.
Second would be "Houses of the Founding Fathers."
And then any of the many books that features city skylines, (especially of decades past, like NYC in the early 20th century), lighthouses bridges or castles.

By the way, that Australian fishing website is GREAT! Instant favorite. The animated knot section is excellent!

Back to top

Cradled rock is slung&&Once around the back and gone&&Flying far and true

IP Logged