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Jul 11th, 2007 at 7:46pm
 
Hello to all!

Up to where, the escitas probably combined both recusos in the battle, the sling and the horse. Does someone know if in the primitive(original) italia slingers existed astride?

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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 4:38am
 
I am not sure,will look into it. Although I think it could be somewhat difficult using a sling from a horse,I think it is quite possible,after all boleadora´s (or bola) were often used from horseback and it basically the same principle.
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Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 10:36am
 
There is a passage from Hannibal that mentions horsemen demonstrating thier slinging from the saddle.
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Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 12:45pm
 
lol but the saddle of an elephant is a helluva lot more stable than a horse ;-)


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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 2:48pm
 
Slinging from a horse is surely possible, but I wonder in what circumstances one would. I'm not a great horseman, but my impression is that any kind of action involving much of the body would really confuse the horse (shifting balance etc.) and you'd probably end up being thrown off if the horse was moving.
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Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 6:06pm
 
wanderer wrote on Jul 12th, 2007 at 2:48pm:
my impression is that any kind of action involving much of the body would really confuse the horse (shifting balance etc.) and you'd probably end up being thrown off if the horse was moving.

The trick is to make the horse sling with you, so that it jumps forth the moment you throw and adds extra power. Wink
You would either need a technique that doesn't change your balance (hard) or just play a dragoon: dismount before participating in the battle.
There is a video of someone slinging from a bike using an underhand throw.
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Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:54pm
 
I consider myself a relatively experienced rider and would never consider actually trying it..The thought of what would happen if a shot went astray and hit my horse is somewhat unnerving..
Have learned to fire my bow from a horse allthough I am about 4feet from the target,not exactly a mongol warrior Grin After trying it for a few times my respect for  the mongols(and other cultures who used horse archers) went through the roof!!
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Reply #7 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 6:32am
 
smgjerald wrote on Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:54pm:
The thought of what would happen if a shot went astray and hit my horse is somewhat unnerving..

Dead horse or dead human?

The dragoon technique wouldn't be more dangerous than slinging while other humans are near. I still wouldn't try it.
Slinging from horseback however...I would be afraid of hitting the horse during the wind-up with the stone or whipping the horse with the released sling. I definitely wouldn't try that.
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 8:56am
 
dead human without a doubt..scaring a horse is not a good idea,especially not if you are sitting on it. Went airborne one time when I learned how to ride, would prefer to avoid doing it again Shocked
would never sling around another human or an animal if it was a possibility I could hit them,after seeing how powerful a slung stone actually is, it is just to dangerous..

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Reply #9 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 11:49am
 
smgjerald wrote on Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:54pm:
I consider myself a relatively experienced rider and would never consider actually trying it..The thought of what would happen if a shot went astray and hit my horse is somewhat unnerving..
Have learned to fire my bow from a horse allthough I am about 4feet from the target,not exactly a mongol warrior Grin After trying it for a few times my respect for  the mongols(and other cultures who used horse archers) went through the roof!!


They did have special bows and a unique draw (thumb release).  This would have made it easier.

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Reply #10 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:33pm
 
Sandbumoen wrote on Jul 13th, 2007 at 11:49am:
They did have special bows and a unique draw (thumb release).  This would have made it easier.

And they only fired while all hooves were in the air to avoid shocks that might offset the aim. This timing alone can be quite difficult.
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Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 1:21pm
 
I actually prefer thumb release(if you mean index/thumb) for some reason,have not affected my archery but just like to release the arrow that way,feel I have more control that way. I´m probably just weird Grin want to try making a mongol bow in the near future,just for fun Cool
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Reply #12 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 10:05pm
 
I think its entirely possible that slinging from horseback was once a fighting skill. Especially if the horse you were on was a combat-trained war horse. They wouldn't stop for anything, and if you can do it with a bow, why not a sling?
Nevertheless, I wouldn't recommend trying it on some trail-riding pony. Unless, of course, you have a death wish.  Undecided
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Re: slinger on horseback??
Reply #13 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 12:55am
 
If you look at the pictures in the historic section you will see a vase with pictures of mounted slingers, Scythians I believe.
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Re: slinger on horseback??
Reply #14 - Jul 15th, 2007 at 11:46am
 
well bear in mind that you are much higher off the ground that a man standing so a good underarm throw would not only be possible but very effective. I would say that anyone who can play polo - would make an effective horse slinger as the motions and hammer are very similiar to a loaded sling used underarm stylee :-)

You don; want to be swinging it round tour head - but then you don't need to :-)
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