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Curious Aardvark Forum Moderation Offline Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 13965 Midlands England Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #45 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:12pm hmm - well children, I suspect that's enough play for one day don't you ? I'd personally love to know how on earth yurek measured his 500m throw and what on earth h slung that kind of distance.
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Dale Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 1581 California, USA Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #46 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:19pm I'm with C_A, you two need to cool it.
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Reply #47 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:36pm

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I would be interested to know how and where yurek slung over 500m and how on earth they found the missile afterwards

I suppose you could incorporate a tracking device. something simple like a key finder should do it.

But I'm still sceptical about the distance.

Why are you sceptical? Though you just are on the right way to discover the secret of the distance. Slinging wearing a kilt is the key. Not mentioning about the beard. I was just wearing a kilt which gave me an extra momentum when I was whirling. It is obvious though, isn't it? Wink

Saying seriously, you can read the all history of it on the forum. If you do some searching, you will be able to get the details. Actually, by now, I don't care very much whether someone believes me or not. Of course, I would feel myself more comfortable if I proved the results, but it is non the most important thing for me and not my problem. I know I did it and I'm not going to feel myself uncomfortable for this reason, or so. If someone wants to verify it, it is just his issue. Anyway, everyone who believes has got a next piece of the knowledge about slinging, I know it

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Reply #48 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:49pm

If you can find it with this bloody search engine you're doing better than me :-)
If I could find any details I wouldn't be asking.

Having stood at the top of a hill and looked at a point approx 500 metres away - yeah I'm sceptical without any details - which I can't find.

Not saying it wasn't done - I'd just like to know how and how it was measured and the missile located.

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Yahweh Bless you in Yeshua Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Matthew 11:25-30 Posts: 1700 Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #49 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:50pm Well said, Yurek. I share your perspective. I'm right there with you, in fact. Having seen your videos, I have no problem taking you at your word! TS
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Curious Aardvark Forum Moderation Offline Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 13965 Midlands England Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #50 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 4:54pm just give me the details - not too much to ask. proof before faith :-)
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Reply #51 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:08pm

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proof before faith

No such thing as faith after proof.

Yurek's a great guy and if I know him at all, then he feels that meeting the burden of proof would only be succeeded by the burden of having himself taken too seriously!

Some would say you're too modest, Yurek....however much honor is retained in modesty!

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Reply #52 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:10pm

Sandbumoen wrote on Apr 15^th, 2007 at 12:30am:

Yurek, can I post that 500m+ record on the ranges page? Also, can you provide any details about the length of sling, ammo weight?

It would be great to show that people are still making progress since the 1992 record.

Chris

Chris,

I would be honoured. Though some time ago I decided not to post the results in order to avoid any suspiction of mythomania, I think there are no reasons to hide them, as the thopic comes back.

If I remember corectly the sling was ca. 1.20 m long. It was made from leadher and cheap syntetic braided cord.

I also did some tries with dyneema and steel cords.

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Yurek Funditor Past Moderator Offline The best thing, is a good sling. Posts: 942 Poland Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #53 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:15pm Thank you TechStuf.
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Curious Aardvark Forum Moderation Offline Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 13965 Midlands England Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #54 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:18pm yep nice sling - what ammo ? Modesty is one thing - but secrecy is just suspicious. What is the big deal here ? If it was done - why not share the details ?
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Reply #55 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:32pm

[quote author=curious_aardvark link=1175645485/60#71 date=1176844736]yep nice sling - what ammo ?

Modesty is one thing - but secrecy is just suspicious.

What is the big deal here ?
If it was done - why not share the details ?
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As I said before, the all details was posted on the forum. So there are no secrets. Please, read my previous posts carefully again.

The ammo was lead 90 grams (or so) glandes. If you know to want exactly, just search it.

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Reply #56 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:38pm

Scanning through Yurek's old posts I came across this one, which contains the papers from David Engvall. There it says the sling must be entirely out of leather. Weird rule, I use hemp as cords. But how did Engvall get his record through when he explicitly stated he was using Kevlar cords and a hook? Defining a dart as a stone is creative, too...

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Yahweh Bless you in Yeshua Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Matthew 11:25-30 Posts: 1700 Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #57 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:51pm Quote: Modesty is one thing - but secrecy is just suspicious. So says the Crown's gaggle of public camera operators, in heartfelt unison at the beginning of each day's shift. "You there, Boy! Yes you, get your hands out of your pockets and move along! Secrecy is just suspicious!" TS
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lobohunter Interfector Viris Spurii Offline where be a rock and a string there be a sling Posts: 1945 Cottage Grove or Gender:	Re: we need a new record! Reply #58 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 7:46pm I personaly think slinging should be done. In the greek tradition no kilt, no baggy shorts maybe a little olive oil to cut down wind restistance
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Reply #59 - Apr 17^th, 2007 at 8:10pm

Curious_Aardvark: "Use the Search, Luke!"

Dravonk,
Engvall's letter states that he had modified the "traditional" sling, and then he defined what a traditional sling was before he stated what his modifications were.

We had a lengthy discussion of how to get a new record into the Guinness book, sometime soon after I joined Slinging.org. The short version of that discussion: Guinness accepts anything that sounds reasonable and is sufficiently detailed.

Larry Bray set his Guinness record using a sling with a leather pouch (elk, I believe) and Dacron cords, throwing rocks. The record setting rock was about 1.84 ounces, painted red for visibility. I do not know who labelled the objects in this photograph; the lead object is a two-ounce fishing weight, apparently provided for comparison with the size of the rock.

David Engvall set his Guinness record using a sling-like rig consisting of Kevlar cords attached to an aluminium bar with a hook in it, which in turn slipped into a hole in the side of a metal dart. There is a much larger, more detailed image

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Both Bray and Engvall described in detail what constituted a "sling" and what constituted a "rock" and the Guinness people swallowed both sets of definitions (and probably chased them with a pint of Stout).

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