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Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging
Reply #5910 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 10:49pm

Morphy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:24pm:

I imagine it would. Take all the excess near pouch/ pouch weight from something like a Balearic sling, remove it and instead add it to the stone. Same weight, more kinetic energy down range.

I think so as well, but there is a maximum speed one can swing a sling, and one could hypothetically throw a 100g at the same speed with both slings (just the heavier sling uses more energy). So far it seems to support this as the Luis Balearic sling weighs twice as much as my own Balearic, yet is just slightly behind when throwing 50g projectiles. Therefore, I could perhaps make my Balearic slings slightly thicker and not see a decrease in power for 150g stones, but get the benefit of increased stability.
Just an idea I had.

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Sarosh Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 1140	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5911 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 2:42am If it can't rifle spin a biconical then it's no good use of the biconical shape . you sacrifice external ballistics . It would be interesting if you could rifle spin a biconical with a y sling.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2811 Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5912 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:26pm Ich verwende für römische schleuderbleie eine Balearic sling in Miniatur. Vom Design ist eine Balearic sling das beste für gezielte Schüsse. Der schwerpunpunkt liegt nicht mittig. Deshalb drückt sie im Schuß. Es ist gut wenn dieses Design etwas mehr Gewicht hat.
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Tejo Tiro Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 44 Chile Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5913 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 3:08pm Here are three slings that I made. I have not slung anything other than a paper ball and a squishy ball because of the pandemic, but I think they would work well with stones and tennis balls. Update: I already tested them with round and smooth stones of different sizes and the last one is my favourite.
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Kick Forum Moderation Offline Posts: 4451 Finland	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5914 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 4:24pm Those are really nice! I've never got any woven pouches to look as clean as these,
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Morphy Slinging.org Moderator Offline Checkmate Posts: 8102	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5915 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 5:19pm Really well done Tejo!
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Archaic Arms Funditor Offline Testing and inventing "Archaic" weapons. Posts: 728	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5916 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:42pm Indeed, that is some good work there! I particularly like the style of the last one.
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Tejo Tiro Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 44 Chile Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5917 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:13pm Thanks. The last one is my first attempt at a sling of that kind. Next one will be better. @Kick Just have a little more patience and you will get better results!
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walter Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2453	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5918 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:33pm @ Tejo Nice slings!
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Tejo Tiro Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 44 Chile Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5919 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:40pm @walter Thank you!
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Tomas Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 2172	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5920 - Jun 10^th, 2020 at 3:37am Nice slings folks!
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AncientCraftwork Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 2403	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #5921 - Jun 10^th, 2020 at 9:09am The last one is also my favorite Tejo I find that this pouch made with hemp, even small ones, do a substantially good job holding and throwing small and large stones up to 250g, and they are also perfect for lead.
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Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging
Reply #5922 - Jun 10^th, 2020 at 9:22am

Archaic Arms wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 10:49pm:

Morphy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:24pm:

I imagine it would. Take all the excess near pouch/ pouch weight from something like a Balearic sling, remove it and instead add it to the stone. Same weight, more kinetic energy down range.

I think so as well, but there is a maximum speed one can swing a sling, and one could hypothetically throw a 100g at the same speed with both slings (just the heavier sling uses more energy). So far it seems to support this as the Luis Balearic sling weighs twice as much as my own Balearic, yet is just slightly behind when throwing 50g projectiles. Therefore, I could perhaps make my Balearic slings slightly thicker and not see a decrease in power for 150g stones, but get the benefit of increased stability.
Just an idea I had.

For 3 days I have slung with Luis balearic sling, inspired by this forum and his video's. I did about 350 shots. It starts to feel really good as one gets used to it. However, the cycle repeats. I get used to the Balearic sling and I get enthusiasstic about it's performance. Then after a few days I use my thinner natural hemp sling. And wow Am I blown away by how much faster the thin hemp throws and how much easier it is to use. Undecided

I really want to love his sling, it is a product of master handcraftship, I really want to believe, because he does so well with it and the Balearics have a legendary reputation, and maybe it just takes more practice than 350 shots to maximize its potential. And when you hold it, it really feels like you have a serious weapon.
But every time I swap to a thinner sling I am blown away by how much more efficient it feels.

So the extreme thickness could still be argued for durability reasons. But I am starting to think a natural fibre sling can be made very strong and quite thin (just a little more than 4 mm) if hemp, linen or nettle is used and the cords are waxxed. I was doubting my jute slings could handle the heavy rocks 250g and I still do but my thin waxxed hemp one is holding up extremely well to them.

I would love to see Luis use a thinner sling one day and hear his opinion about it.

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Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging
Reply #5923 - Jun 10^th, 2020 at 12:48pm

Archaic Arms wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 10:49pm:

Morphy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:24pm:

I imagine it would. Take all the excess near pouch/ pouch weight from something like a Balearic sling, remove it and instead add it to the stone. Same weight, more kinetic energy down range.

I think so as well, but there is a maximum speed one can swing a sling, and one could hypothetically throw a 100g at the same speed with both slings (just the heavier sling uses more energy). So far it seems to support this as the Luis Balearic sling weighs twice as much as my own Balearic, yet is just slightly behind when throwing 50g projectiles. Therefore, I could perhaps make my Balearic slings slightly thicker and not see a decrease in power for 150g stones, but get the benefit of increased stability.
Just an idea I had.

Good points. So the next question would be can we prove that such slings are more stable. And how do we define that? Better scores?

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Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging
Reply #5924 - Jun 10^th, 2020 at 2:59pm

Morphy wrote on Jun 10^th, 2020 at 12:48pm:

Archaic Arms wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 10:49pm:

Morphy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:24pm:

I imagine it would. Take all the excess near pouch/ pouch weight from something like a Balearic sling, remove it and instead add it to the stone. Same weight, more kinetic energy down range.

I think so as well, but there is a maximum speed one can swing a sling, and one could hypothetically throw a 100g at the same speed with both slings (just the heavier sling uses more energy). So far it seems to support this as the Luis Balearic sling weighs twice as much as my own Balearic, yet is just slightly behind when throwing 50g projectiles. Therefore, I could perhaps make my Balearic slings slightly thicker and not see a decrease in power for 150g stones, but get the benefit of increased stability.
Just an idea I had.

Good points. So the next question would be can we prove that such slings are more stable. And how do we define that? Better scores?

There's no doubt in my mind his sling is the most stable one I have used. The square braid and the taper ensures that the cords will never twist during spinning and that the sling will open up correctly (haven't had the cords twist around each other after a throw, ever) That's a good thing. But is it worth the trade off of using a sling that requires more energy to use, I don't know.

The whip snap is really cool, and makes using it fun, especially to impress others. Other than that it's not really beneficial to a sling and would betray position but could also be a nuisance to neighbours. I think I prefer a tab. You would never hear where its coming from.

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