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Nov 7th, 2006 at 7:50pm
 
I sling in the esteemed nwmanitou fig8 overhand style.  Aiming with this style is intuitive inasmuch as the delivery is just a big "overhand baseball pitch".  This is one of it's big advantages, and why I much recommend this style.

I find that if my aim is off, it's NOT my aim.  It's my timing.  A shot rushed just ever-so-slightly will "hook" every time.

A shot timed right will go pretty much where I want it to go in azimuth.  Elevation is another problem.

This is an FYI for slingsters suffering accuracy frustration.  Hope it helps.
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Reply #1 - Nov 7th, 2006 at 9:21pm
 
Hmm.. I am attempting to master the figure-8 and find this interesting.

I'm hampered by not having pitched baseball at any level  Sad, so I don't have the feel of it already learnt, but are you saying that the slingshot should go in the same direction as the ball would go were you to be throwing one with the same action?
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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2006 at 7:44pm
 
Wanderer,

Have you played tennis?  A slinger, using the figure-8 style, looks even more like a tennis player serving the ball, than like a pitcher throwing a baseball.
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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2006 at 7:49pm
 
Mgreenfield,

You say the stone (or ball) hooks?  Like a curveball?  Sounds like your sling has twisted, so that you get a side-spin.

I think (especially after looking at Tito's beautiful photograph in the mountains) that all slings twist, and the best shots have the swing and the twist coordinated so that the pouch is oriented correctly at the moment of release.

As you said: Timing, timing, timing!
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Reply #4 - Nov 8th, 2006 at 8:04pm
 
    Timing is perhaps the most critical aspect of accuracy slinging. I would add that the ancients were on to something by their choice of smooth, spherical ammo for accuracy exercise.  Smooth round stones (or other spherical ammo) as per the David/Goliath account, are the order of the day when slinging for accuracy.  
    Also, their choice of heavier ammo helped compensate for the slower velocities necessitated by accuracy exercise as compared to distance slinging. This also enhanced accuracy by increasing force feedback to a level similar to that of the smaller, lighter ammo during distance slinging.  
    Simply put, smooth, spherical ammo practically eliminates the consideration of sling torque and pocket alignment issues as these are incorporated naturally into the learning curve.


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P.S. hey, I made a pun!
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Reply #5 - Nov 9th, 2006 at 12:30am
 
Dale, the tennis serve (an analogy I remember now I have seen on this site) helps. To me that seems to mean reaching higher than with a pitch. Is that the general idea?
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Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2006 at 5:56pm
 
Wanderer,

I pitched baseball when I was a kid, and I have played tennis and racquetball (serving is similar in both sports).  Pitching a baseball does have the arm bent a bit, while serving a tennis or racquet ball keeps the arm straight (assuming I'm doing it right -- any comments, Tint?).  When I do a figure-8, my arm is straight.

So yes, I believe that you should be reaching higher when doing the figure-8.
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Reply #7 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 7:12pm
 
Dale, ....the shot doesnt really do a curving hook like a poor golf shot.  It simply goes straight but the aim is off in the "hook direction".

Using the terms "hook" and "slice" is better because it lets BOTH left and right-handed slingers instantly know the direction described relative to the slinging hand.    

FYI, I'm left-handed.

And, yes, in my opinion the nwmanitou fig8 style with a full tennis-serve delivery at the end is the ultimate in slinging effectiveness; combining flat trajectory, huge range, and best possible accuracy.

Close grip for round ammo and accuracy.  Wide grip for ellipsoid ammo and range.

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Reply #8 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 9:59pm
 
Mgreenfield,

I was just looking up your comments on knots and other pouch irregularities ... I have just seen a
pouch design by Hammilton
that deliberately puts bumps on either side of the pouch.  I'm going to have to try that, but I suspect that Hammilton's "speed bumps" serve the same purpose as the reverse curve of
LoboHunter's pouch design
.

OK, yes, this is off-topic.  But doesn't every topic get hijacked at some point?
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