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Reply #15 - Jul 18th, 2006, 6:12pm
 
Sounds good ... I have only hand tools, so it is going to take some time to drill, cut and file that washer.  My copy of Jurek's design was much faster, all I had to do was cut a length of 9-guage wire, file the ends smooth, and wrap some cord around it and the pouch.
 
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Reply #16 - Jul 19th, 2006, 12:02am
 
I find that the spiral spin feels as if the rock is staying longer in the pocket during the release and such feeling allows me to reproduce a similar shot with pratice.
 
The slings I use are very old schooled.  But I think they hon my skills as a slinger.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Jul 19th, 2006, 12:29am
 

If you can feel such a difference then your reflexes must be honed indeed!  Honestly, how do fellow martial artists react to your sling demonstrations?  I would think that such an art would really take off over there!
 
 
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Reply #18 - Jul 19th, 2006, 12:36am
 
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Good job. minimum profile and light weight. My experiment had coat hanger wire and sort of semi open loops instead of coils. It was made for lead projectiles. The small/dense ammo was totally invisible in flight and thus impossible to determine what happened to them. I could only estimate by the feel at release that the distance was as much as 3 times my baseball slinging range.  However all of my recent baseball slings use the lexan release hook with the addition of a trip cord to allow cord separation at pouch end.
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Reply #19 - Jul 19th, 2006, 12:44am
 
After a couple thousands of shots I do start to feel the subtler differences, especially with short heavy slings.  I think that is the key to getting better at anything, just keep going way past the point of bordom. Tongue
 
The dojo that I went to really didn't have the space for slinging.  And I didn't stay long enough to make friends who'd go to the suburb to witness my obession.  Most of my tennis friends shows interest though.  I just went slinging on Monday with a bunch of them.  Most of them do well with the fgure 8.
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Reply #20 - Jul 19th, 2006, 12:58am
 

I would have thought the martial artists would be all over it....and instead it's the tennis guys!  Well, I guess it stands to reason, especially that they would master the overhand styles!
 
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 19th, 2006, 5:44pm
 
Tint,
When you use a narrow grip, do you put the finger loop on your pinky finger, and run the cord across your palm?  If so, then you are getting a little support from friction between the cord and your hand.  When you use a wide grip, one finger is supporting the whole load.
 
I found that making the finger loop thicker distributes the load over a wider area, and it relieves pain.  That is the idea behind wrapping the finger loop, as Funslinger and Jurek showed us.
 
Another way to do this is to make a double loop on the fingerloop.  I have done with using a bowline knot, as Jurek shows (see the last photo in that post) and a perfection knot (sorry, no picture available).
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Reply #22 - Jul 19th, 2006, 9:10pm
 
oh! Shocked I ought to try the double loop idea.  
 
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Reply #23 - Jul 20th, 2006, 1:09pm
 
great discusion guys
I am a big fan of the wide grip release. I can feel when my relase is not consistant. often its the ammo spinning off the back of the pouch.  I seem to get a better constant accuracy with the wide grip than the narrow grip. i find the wrist loop wrist loop aid in a more costant release.
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Reply #24 - Jul 20th, 2006, 9:35pm
 
lobohunter, how do you do a wide release with a wrist loop?  do you let it hang down from the wrist or do you lead it through your hand to the middle of your fingers?
i tried a wrist loop from the wrist and had trouble making it work for me.
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Reply #25 - Jul 27th, 2006, 12:59pm
 
Sorry about taking so long to reply to this post. been up on pct. Any way i thread it though my middle finger and pinky finger then the release string in the normal spot between middle and thumb. One of the reasons I like the wist loop so much is its easy to change things. Heck if you want to shorten the sling just wrap around the wrist a time or two
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Reply #26 - Jul 27th, 2006, 3:56pm
 
oh akoy i get it now
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Reply #27 - Aug 9th, 2006, 3:47pm
 
Hey, TechStuf!
 
I just built a sling using your wire release hook.  I was cheap, I just used 12-gauge bailing wire.  Here's my first impressions:
 
This is not a sling for general use, it takes too long to load it.
 
It is rather heavy.  Noticeable pull on fingers after release, which is something to get used to.
 
I'm consistently releasing LATE!  I think I need to work at the release gadget with some pliers.  I believe the angle and curve of the wire is critical to a good release, and I've got them wrong.  Then I need to polish the wire, I can feel the release ring catching on the wire.
 
FOLLOWUP: the shape of the hook is not as important as its smoothness.  I finally gave up and made another hook, and I was careful not to mar the surface of the wire.  Even though it is not as well shaped as this one in the picture, it releases much, much better.
 
If you want, I'll scan the sling and post the photo.
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Reply #28 - Aug 9th, 2006, 3:50pm
 
Yes please, photos, allways photos, for all of us.
 
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Reply #29 - Aug 9th, 2006, 4:02pm
 

Dale,  I wouldn't mind seeing a photo.....as mine seems to have no problems.  Sure, it's weight is noticeable but negligible....and the load time is a bit higher but after a few casts, one can learn to latch very quickly.
 
 
When I get the new hooks, it will be ready for prime time.  The new hooks will not allow for accidental dumping and ammo can be easily loaded with one hand.
 
 
I'm getting there.....after my vacation, I'll get the web site finished and get things moving.
 
 
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