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Mar 16th, 2006 at 7:16am
 
Just a question. What technique do all of you use? I mean do you wind up with a few rotations, or do you use one rotation then launch? I am just wondering because I dont get very much distance with a windup and want to know if just one snap will increase power and distance.
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Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 9:15am
 
i use one rotation and then just fling it forward Really fastlike i don't get That much distance but it just feels more natural  Grin
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Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 2:47pm
 
Most of the time I use a softball pitch like throw with no windup. Just step back, rock forward, lunge and plant my left foot forward, and bring my arm forward. I start with my right arm bent slightly and sticking out to my right, then begin my motion. the whole movement of my arm totals slightly more than 360 degrees from beginning to the time I bring the sling to a stop, usually crossing my arm slightly across my chest in followup.
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Reply #3 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 5:17pm
 
I use the figure-8/tennis throw because every other throw I've tried was unnatural/uncomfertable. So, about 1.5 - 1.75 rotations.
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Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 7:23pm
 
When I use the helicopter throw I let the sling swing around 3-4 times before release.  The longer the sling the more rotations feels natural for me.
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Reply #5 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 7:53pm
 
i use the sofball fast pitch method with about two rotations
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Reply #6 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 8:32pm
 
I use several techniques, with varying amounts of windup.  The Forsyth/Apache technque has NO windup; see his article for a description of how to do it.  The figure-8 has a one-rotation windup.  David Taylor's Greek casts (whether underhand, side-arm or overhand) have about a half-rotation of windup.  When I use Jurek's side-arm technique, I get better results with two rotations (Sv, if I remember, uses one rotation).

Drum_slinger,
In my opinion, the windup has nothing to do with putting power into the ball/rock/whatever.  Its purposes are (1) to get the sling in the proper position for the delivery swing, and (2) to give you a feel for the weight of what you are about to sling (if you are slinging rocks you just picked up).

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Several of us who learned the figure-8 around a year ago, really had problems with it.  Swinging the sling behind my head, just felt WRONG.  Until I "got it".  And you say that the figure-8 is the only one that feels natural to you?  I'm envious.
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Reply #7 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 8:41pm
 
I have to agree with Tint. It depends on the size of the sling you are using. With a short sling I just use a snap. With a longer sling I may use several rotations.
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Reply #8 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 8:53pm
 
Hmm, Dale, the figure-8 feels more naturual to me than anything else, probably because i play tennis though.
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Reply #9 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 9:09pm
 
i love underhand pitch.

for some reasone i just don't feel comfortable doing an overhand. i need to learn how thought. my technique for that throw sucks. qwik ? when throwing an overhand pitch does the sling stay on the sling side of the body, and can you swing it on the other side before a release.
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Reply #10 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 9:34pm
 
I use the figure-8 and underhand throws most. The underhand I typically have three rotations.
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Reply #11 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 9:38pm
 
I am still plastic enough to try all of them, because I'm still learning. Overhand, and helicopter with 2 1/2 rotations seem to be the most powerful.
I have to agree that you don't get any additional power from rotations, but it helps you judge the weight of the stone alot better.

Sorta still on topic...
While slinging, how far do all of you point your palm to the sky? I've noticed a slightly smoother throw when I do this before my launch. Has anyone else noticed this?

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Reply #12 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 9:48pm
 
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qwik ? when throwing an overhand pitch does the sling stay on the sling side of the body, and can you swing it on the other side before a release.


Well, if you swung it around behind your back, then you'd essentially be doing a figure-8...

EDIT: Since we're all asking questions about how to sling, do you extend your arm when throwing overhand/underhand or do you simply rotate your wrist?
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Reply #13 - Mar 17th, 2006 at 8:04pm
 
There's some film of various techniques on this forum someplace.   I think the styles break down into these:
1/ Figure 8 overhand pioneered by nwmanitou, with the final snap like a tennis serve or hardball pitch.
2/ Single snap overhand "Apache style", also like a tennis serve, but with no preliminary turn.
3/ Underhand generally with about 1-3/4 to 2 turns total
4/ Helicopter/sidearm with plane of rotation ranging from near vertical to near horizontal, with various numbers of turns, but generally finishing with slinging arm across the body.

It's important to extend the slinging arm as much as possible.  It's not done with a wrist snap only.   I like the reliability/accuracy of the Fig 8 overhand, but am not flexible enough to start with my arm back far enough to get maximum power into this style.  So, I think my 'natural' style is sidearm.

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Re: rotations
Reply #14 - Mar 17th, 2006 at 9:07pm
 
Overhand the Figure-8 ... so that is about 1 & 3/4  revolutions.

Underhanded start with sling hand pointed at target step ,  crank around and back about 3/4 of a revolution.

If multiple revolutions just fast enough to keep ammo in pouch and get a feel for weight (multiple sized stones)
untill all is well and then step, crank and cast. (or as we used to say , back in the day. "Unconscious"

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