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Inka firebombs.
Feb 2nd, 2006 at 3:38pm
 
  from the book  1491, by Charles Mann.

   " The Inka heated stones in campfires until they were red hot, wrapped them in pitched soaked cotton, and hurled them at there targets. the cotton caught fire in mid-air. In a sudden onslaught the sky would rain burning missles. In 1536, the Inka used these missles to burn spanish occupied Qosqo to the ground."

     Seperated by continents, yet they had similar ideas to European slingers.
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Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2006 at 7:51pm
 
wow, to catch on fire midair you'd have to have really good timing.
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Reply #2 - Feb 2nd, 2006 at 8:24pm
 
Hey thats really interesting.. thanks!
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Reply #3 - Feb 2nd, 2006 at 8:29pm
 
How did they keep their slings from catching on fire? Shocked
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Reply #4 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 12:18am
 
Hellfire asked about the spelling of Inka in a duplicate thread that I removed (sorry Hellfire, but this version had three responses Smiley): Both Inca and Inka are used, though Inca seems to be mst commmon these days and in American literature.

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Reply #5 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 2:01pm
 
I suppose the slingers would have to be pretty fast to not have the slings catch fire. It doesn't say.
  What I want to know is why didn't the cotton catch fire whenit was wrapped around the rock?
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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 2:13pm
 
ha, and more importantly, how did they not cath themselves on fire  Shocked
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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 3:56pm
 
I think pitch can catch fire only when in liquid state, thus the stone must liquify it first, giving you few seconds for a fast cast without much windup. Anyone knows which style Incas used for these? I would guess overhand, but dunno...
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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 5:17pm
 
it might have been the style that it seems david used against goliath for a fast cast
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Reply #9 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 5:59pm
 
Stenny, based on numberous burns on my forearm, pitch can burn in a solid state also.

I would think this would be a pretty effective weapon against buildings. Perhaps the cotton was soaked like a slowmatch so it would only burn when it got hot enough.
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Reply #10 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 11:19pm
 
I wonder how the hot rocks were transported to a battle site. Building a fire to heat the rocks would take time and give away ones position.Toting around a bunch of hot rocks doesn't sound like a sound battlefield tactic.
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Reply #11 - Feb 4th, 2006 at 3:37am
 
In a siege building a fire where you need it can be done.
And in mountainus areas it might be posible to position your fire above what is going to be the battlefield.

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Reply #12 - Feb 4th, 2006 at 10:52am
 
All the book says is that they launched after 2 or 3 swings. My bet would be overhead, to keep the sling away from sensitive body parts. Shocked
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2006 at 10:55am
 
I would think ANY body part would be sensitive to a red hot rock! Shocked
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Reply #14 - Feb 4th, 2006 at 4:52pm
 
But if the cotton was soaked like a "slowmatch" or something similar, and only ignited when it got hotter.....
Then... How did they make it hot enough??
The stone would rapidly lose it`s heat once removed from the fire...
If pitch soaked cotton was indeed wrapped around "red hot" stones, what was the mechanism for it to "burst into flame in mid-air"??
Also, that whole thing about red-hot stones seems pretty strange to me..

It makes for decent fantasies, and interesting "what-if's" but very little else..

Something tells me it`s time for us all to get our heads out of the skies, grab a handful of dirt, and snort it like a motherf*... *coughs*
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