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Aug 25th, 2005 at 2:36pm
 
  Just got done reading Eirik's Saga. The one about the Norse discovery of America.
  Apparently, the first encounter between the Vikings and Skraelings ( Eskimo) didn't go well. War broke out.
  The Skraelings used warslings, and one of the Vikings was killed by a stone lodged in the head.
  Also, the Skraelings used a bladder like device thrown from a pole. As it flew through the air, it made a loud noise that frightened the Vikings
   Imagine, the fierce Vikings scared by a simple thing.
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Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2005 at 4:41pm
 
Skraelings i don't think are eskimos. They ran into them in greenland before that. They were indians. Why did the war break out. If i remember right it was the vikings gave the indians milk and they were lactos and tourat? The indians thought they were beening posined.

What book is eirks sagas in? The icelander saga (book).
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Reply #2 - Aug 26th, 2005 at 12:41pm
 
Skraelings are Micmacs, I think.  I have not heard of the Skraelings using slings - just stone tipped arrows.
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2005 at 12:56pm
 
According to the saga, the Icelanders were trading with the Skraelings, when the bulls they brought with them broke loose and began bellowing. It frightened the Skraelings and they ran away.
   After that, the Skraelings decided that the Icelanders were dangerous, and that's how the battle began.
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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2005 at 12:25pm
 
Skrælings is the term used by vikings about the inhabitans of Vinland (Newfoundland).

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Reply #5 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 7:39pm
 
Yeah, skraelings were the people we know now as the Micmacs. and my guess is that a reason for war and slaughter for the vikings probably would not have to be a particularly important one. Simply having something they wanted badly enough was probably about all they needed.
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Reply #6 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 2:45pm
 
The Skrælingar weren't inuits. Inuits aren't from Vinland. Ja, I think they were MicMac.

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Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2005 at 4:59am
 
Just on the off chance...are there any Asatuar in the memberslist?
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Reply #8 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 1:26pm
 
I know Asatru and its customs well, but I have no particular set of customs I am tied to. Are you Asatru by any chance Grautr?

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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2005 at 11:26am
 
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The Norse were in contact with Eskimo peoples--Dorset Eskimo in northern Labrador and Baffin Island, and Inuit in Greenland. Further south (in Vinland and parts of Markland) contact was almost certainly with Indian peoples--probably Beothuck, and ancestral Innu and Micmac. The Norse called all of these peoples Skraelings, without distinction.

I think it is likely that the sling-users were Eskimos and that references to noisy weapons incorporating bladders describe harpoons launched with throwing boards. As I have mentioned in earlier threads, objects identified as probable sling handles have been recovered by archaeologists from a number of Thule Eskimo sites both in Greenland and Arctic Canada.


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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 1:23pm
 
I heard somewhere that some of the tribes in Newfoundland have about 1/4 of their blood shared with Scandinavians based on DNA tests. So I guess the war didn't last for long.  Shocked
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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 7:28pm
 
I heard that to.
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Reply #12 - Mar 2nd, 2006 at 5:10am
 
From "Eirik's Saga, in The Vinland Sagas: The Norse Discovery of America" translated by Magnus Magnusson and Herman Palsson and published by Penguin Classics in 1965 we find this passage, where native American warriors called "Skraelings" faced the Norsemen in battle.

    "When they clashed there was a fierce battle and a hail of missiles came flying over, for the Skraelings were using catapults. Karlsefni and Snorri saw them hoist a large sphere on a pole; [one manuscript here adds "it was the size of a sheep's stomach,"] it was dark blue in colour. It came flying over the head of Karlsefni's men and made an ugly din when it struck the ground. This terrified Karlsefni and his men so much that their only thought was to flee, and they retreated farther up the river."

A further footnote in the book added that;

    "This device has been compared with the ballista which ancient traditions of the Algonquin Indians describe."
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Reply #13 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 6:53pm
 
Hei Hei Hail Vinland!

Forward : ride the ocean's waves
be bold : glory to the brave

Deep the sea : above me eternal sky
freezing winds : cold to the limbs : the waves are high
sleepless nights : the bleak moonlight : the chill and damp
by morning light : a strip of land we see

Vinland : crossing the endless raging ocean
Vinland : follow the stars and the sign of the raven
Vinland : watch the horizon for the strip of the western land
Vinland : plough through the waves white wolfs at a raging sea


Being a blonde haired, blue eyed Newfoundlander myself, Ive done some research!
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/exploration/norse.html
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Reply #14 - Mar 16th, 2006 at 10:49pm
 
Being a brown eyed dark haired skraeling, I've done   some research too. Wink          www.nativepeoples.com
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