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Sep 7th, 2003 at 9:52am
 
This is probably listed somewhere else on the site, but does anyone know the date of the oldest surviving sling?  Or at least, the oldest pictograph of sling?   ???

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Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 12:02pm
 
I once found a picture online of a a supposed cave painting of a slinger.  This was dated to around Neanderthal times I believe (~30,000 BC?).

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We defiantly know civilizations like the Assyrians were using slings, so that puts up defiantly back to about 1000 BC.   

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Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:02pm
 
Ooohhh....I guessed right. 

Thanks Chris!

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Reply #3 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 4:46am
 
hello leon

The oldest sling were ever found comes from lahun (egypt). Experts date it on 800 v. Chr. There is a picture of this sling into the net. I will tell you the link later.

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Reply #4 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 4:53am
 
hello leon

Go to " www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/textil/other.html - 13 k "

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Reply #5 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 9:54am
 
Thats rather interesting.  This "Egyptian" sling looks exactly like the Roman sling shown by Chris on the other post.  It even looks like it is made out of the same material.  Hmmm....evidence of questionable origins, or perhaps evidence of a disseminated sling making tradition.

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Reply #6 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 2:27pm
 
Here is the picture linked from their site:
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Leon is right on the money.  It looks almost the same as the other one.  Even the rule, background, and lighting is the same.  I wouldn't be surprised if it was from the same collection. 

Here's the other one again:
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http://www.petrie.ucl.ac.uk/search/detail/results/detail.asp?01_objectidentifier...

Both slings were collected at Lahun and are believed to be around 800 BC. Brugger is right, both are Egyptian. However, Lehun (and the region) during that time period was heavily influenced by the Roman Empire, so I wasn't too far off.
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Re: oldest sling?
Reply #7 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 10:48pm
 
I think they are the same sling.  The pieces are put together differently.
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Reply #8 - Sep 9th, 2003 at 11:21pm
 
Your right.
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Reply #9 - Mar 2nd, 2006 at 9:47am
 
wow does anybody else see the similarity between this sling
and the one Mathias knitted
http://www.slinging.org/forum2/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=1;action=display;num=10894094...
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Reply #10 - Mar 2nd, 2006 at 1:52pm
 
I see a similarity in appearance; however the ancient sling looks woven, not knitted. (Hope I'm not misusing words). If the thongs were pointing North and south, the lines on the pouch run E and W in the ancient sling, and N and S with the knitted sling.
I don't know anything really about knitting or weaving, but I think someone mentioned that knitting is a relatively new technology?
Any thoughts? Could the Egyptians have known the skill that is knitting?

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Reply #11 - Mar 2nd, 2006 at 3:12pm
 
i got an egypt lover in the famely may i'll ask her perhaps shell be able to enlighten us  Grin
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Reply #12 - Mar 2nd, 2006 at 5:55pm
 
The cords of the egyptian sling are definitely braided - a copy of the text from the reconstruction mentions sinnet. The pocket construction is a little funny. It almost looks like it has been twined - woven with a twist added in the warp. The reconstruction looks different to me, but close.Call it woven though. I don't think we are likely to find historical sources for knit slings - most of the cultures that used them had no knowledge of knitting!

One of the reasons they look similar is that there aren't that many fibre-type constructions that produce such clean pockets and cord-pouch transistions. The egyptian sling really is a work of art. There is at least 10 times the work in that sling than in mine...

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Reply #13 - Mar 7th, 2006 at 5:12pm
 
Just to update this old thread.  The oldest sling that I am aware was recovered in Tutankhamun's (King Tut's) Tomb during excavations by Howard Carter in the 1920s.  If buried along side the pharaoh, the sling was produced no later than 1323 B.C. (the kings death).

http://www.ashmol.ox.ac.uk/perl/gi-ca-qmakesumm.pl?sid=149.169.152.78-1094669253...


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