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Message started by Morphy on Oct 1st, 2019 at 8:35pm

Title: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 1st, 2019 at 8:35pm
Two questions actually. The first is as above.


Looking back on the movies from the 70s, 80s and 90s I don't feel like we are getting the same quality anymore.†

The other question I have is, does anyone else feel like politics should be left out of movies?† I find the more heavy handed the director is on adding current day politics the more it brings me out of the movie and potentially ruins it all together.

Without being too controversial, for me, The Last Jedi was a steaming pile of hot garbage. I could rant on that movie for hours. But I will spare you. It comes down to too much politics and political agenda.

What do you think? Maybe this is just me. Tell us your thoughts and help me avoid studying.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:25pm
The only thing I will say about The Last Jedi is that it was just as amazingly good as The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. If I only had one golden plunger award to give out, Iíd probably cut it in half... but George Lucas would still get both halves! He should've gotten out of the movie business decades ago.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm
To answer your question though Morphy... most movies are bad and always have been. Itís just less painful to only remember the few good ones :)

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Kick on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 5:37am
One problem is that the big studios are too scared to do something new. They want easy bankability which is why it seems everything is a remake or a superhero movie. They make cash and pretty reliably even if the movie itself sucks. Case in point, DC. Most of their current offerings have been terrible... and made a crap ton of cash. Of course, not as much as Marvel are making so DC are unhappy because nowadays if a company is making loads of money but not ALL the money they think they're failing. There are still really good movies being made but it seems they are coming from smaller studios that aren't getting as much media.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Kick on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 5:37am
By the way Morphy, you're killing it with the interesting Other Topics questions :D

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by slingbadger on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 6:43am
What I hate are when they take an old TV show from the 60's or 70's and remake it into a movie. Same with the video game inspired movies. It just seems like laziness.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Sarosh on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 7:14am
we become numb to good movies too many of them are made and they are easily available.
I believe the percentage of good movies has remained the same but the quantity has risen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmSO2cz2ozQ

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 8:30am
I do have a sure fire formula for making a great movie:
Step 1. Find a popular video game and write a script around itís plot
Step 2. Hire one big Hollywood star. Only one.
Step 3. Most of your budget should be spent on CGI
Step 4. Ride the sequel train into retirement!

Here are some suggestions for new movies using this foolproof formula:
Portal
Five Nights at Freddyís
Tetris
Starfox
Candy Crush
The Sudoku Trilogy

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:08am
Shall I go on? Ok...
PUBG the Movie
Goldeneye the Video Game: The Movie
Doodle Jump
Flappy Bird
Fallout
Pacman: Revenge of the Fallen
Ms. Pacman: The Mystery of the Bow

... youíre right Morphy. Thereís no excuse for bad movies. Maybe I should quit my job and move to Hollywood to fix things for you. All I have to do is become a waiter and wait until the big shot producers roll through the restaurant so I can pitch these epic movie ideas to them.


Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:35am

Kick wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 5:37am:
By the way Morphy, you're killing it with the interesting Other Topics questions :D


Why thank you sir! Anything to avoid responsibilities.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:44am
Well Transformers is the most glaring example isn't it? It used to be, make a movie if it was really popular, make a sequel. That was a big deal.

Then the triology became popular. It doesn't feel complete without a triology. Now they don't even bother hiding what they are doing. If it makes money just keep riding that horse into the ground. Which Transformers are we on? Part 12? Please just let the toy robots die. For all that is good and holy, let them all die.

That being said good movies are still being made. I believe personally the Lord of the Rings triology was the greatest three movies I've ever seen. Everything was top notch. It's just in the last ten years everything is comics and reboots. And reboots of comic reboots, (Spiderman I'm looking at you.)

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:20am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:28am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:20am:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs


https://youtu.be/_zgb8N-5py0

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Sarosh on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:35am

Morphy wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Kick wrote Today at 12:37pm:
By the way Morphy, you're killing it with the interesting Other Topics questions Cheesy


Why thank you sir! Anything to avoid responsibilities.


you should know you are helping a lot of people procrastinate too...

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:52am

Sarosh wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:35am:

Morphy wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Kick wrote Today at 12:37pm:
By the way Morphy, you're killing it with the interesting Other Topics questions Cheesy


Why thank you sir! Anything to avoid responsibilities.


you should know you are helping a lot of people procrastinate too...


I'm not much of a procrastinator, I would like to be but I can never bring myself to actually do it. That's why I post random topics on Slinging.org.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 11:03am

Morphy wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:52am:

Sarosh wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 10:35am:

Morphy wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:35am:
Kick wrote Today at 12:37pm:
By the way Morphy, you're killing it with the interesting Other Topics questions Cheesy


Why thank you sir! Anything to avoid responsibilities.


you should know you are helping a lot of people procrastinate too...


I'm not much of a procrastinator, I would like to be but I can never bring myself to actually do it. That's why I post random topics on Slinging.org.


I hear ya. Iíve been meaning to procrastinate more, but I havenít gotten around to it yet.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by slingbadger on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 6:31am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Oct 2nd, 2019 at 9:08am:
Shall I go on? Ok...
PUBG the Movie
Goldeneye the Video Game: The Movie
Doodle Jump
Flappy Bird
Fallout
Pacman: Revenge of the Fallen
Ms. Pacman: The Mystery of the Bow

... youíre right Morphy. Thereís no excuse for bad movies. Maybe I should quit my job and move to Hollywood to fix things for you. All I have to do is become a waiter and wait until the big shot producers roll through the restaurant so I can pitch these epic movie ideas to them.

There was a Rubik's cube movie idea floating around for a while. Luckily it never got off the ground

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 7:17am
The other thing I don't really get is the reboots. The 2016 Ghostbusters reboot was unnecessary. The original movie was perfect. You are never going to reboot it up to that level so why even bother doing it? I wish Hollywood would get some decent ideas for new movies.

Please no more Jurassic Parks, Transformers, and even though I wouldn't want all the comic book movies to stop at least turn out more original big budget blockbusters in addition to them. Inception was a good example. Great cast, interesting idea, music, set pieces etc.

Remember when Raiders of the Lost Ark was an original movie? Star Wars? Matrix? We need more beginnings and less sequels.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Kick on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 7:42am
But Morphy! Think of those poor poor studio execs! They only have tens of millions when they could have HUNDREDS of millions! Would you deny those poor desperate millionaires just so you can see a movie with an original idea directed by someone that cares about crafting a narrative? :D

They make the crap because the crap sells. It's the reason a lot of modern Hollywood films have random Chinese actors and are set in China or in some way reference China. That goes down really well in China even if it makes no sense in the film for western audiences.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 8:29am
@Morphy, have you seen Into the Spiderverse? Rebooting Spiderman has been done so often that they made an entire movie around the idea of constantly rebooting Spiderman... Very meta

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 8:55am
From 2012:
https://youtu.be/TnpTcrtsN3U

This year: they actually made one for real... shameless!
https://youtu.be/ksj69JaBrAo

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Rat Man on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 12:14pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Oct 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm:
To answer your question though Morphy... most movies are bad and always have been. Itís just less painful to only remember the few good ones :)


Well said.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Rat Man on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 12:19pm

Morphy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 7:17am:
The other thing I don't really get is the reboots. The 2016 Ghostbusters reboot was unnecessary. The original movie was perfect. You are never going to reboot it up to that level so why even bother doing it? I wish Hollywood would get some decent ideas for new movies.

Please no more Jurassic Parks, Transformers, and even though I wouldn't want all the comic book movies to stop at least turn out more original big budget blockbusters in addition to them. Inception was a good example. Great cast, interesting idea, music, set pieces etc.

Remember when Raiders of the Lost Ark was an original movie? Star Wars? Matrix? We need more beginnings and less sequels.


    I couldn't agree more.  The overwhelming majority of reboots are no where near as good as the original. Off the top of my head I can think of one that was as good... True Grit.  Why bother?  Are there no new ideas?

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Kick on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 12:59pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 8:29am:
@Morphy, have you seen Into the Spiderverse? Rebooting Spiderman has been done so often that they made an entire movie around the idea of constantly rebooting Spiderman... Very meta


That one is a really goods film. Again it depends on the director and the writing. When they have a vision, when they actually have a style and can execute it, that's when the film actually turns out good.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 5:45pm
See Into the Spiderverse was really good.  I personally loved it. That movie earned it's Oscar. It was very well done. The art design was inspired.

@Ratman True Grit was really good. I've only seen it twice. I need to watch it again. I love Jeff Bridges he's super talented. And the girl did really well also.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by Morphy on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 5:50pm

Kick wrote on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 7:42am:
But Morphy! Think of those poor poor studio execs! They only have tens of millions when they could have HUNDREDS of millions! Would you deny those poor desperate millionaires just so you can see a movie with an original idea directed by someone that cares about crafting a narrative? :D

They make the crap because the crap sells. It's the reason a lot of modern Hollywood films have random Chinese actors and are set in China or in some way reference China. That goes down really well in China even if it makes no sense in the film for western audiences.


It's funny because actually the movie I mentioned, Inception, did that very thing. They were careful to have a well known Chinese  actor (who had a ridiculously thick accent lol) and an Indian or asian-esque actor. Don't get me wrong both did a great job and I wouldn't want it any other way but after it happening in so many movies it does sort of stretch credulity.

Like "Really? Everybody happens to have that one friend from Mainland China???" Lol. It's cool though. So long as the movie is good I don't care.

But you're right they keep making crap movies, frankly, because we ask for it by buying tickets. Man, what I wouldn't give to have another Raiders of the Lost Ark to come out. Something that is new and different for it's time and both an adventure but with a classic feel. That would be great.   NO MORE FAST AND FURIOUS. Lol. That's another that needs to die. Hopefully sooner than later.

Title: Re: Are good movies becoming more rare?
Post by JudoP on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 7:02pm
It's too commercialised, same with videogames now. Companies love the low risk reboots and mediocre films because it's guaranteed pay day.

Aiming to please a mass audience reliably AND take risks to produce good art are two aims that don't often align.

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