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Message started by timpa on May 4th, 2019 at 5:49pm

Title: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by timpa on May 4th, 2019 at 5:49pm
I did this for knife protection, but it can also work against sling stones :)    (to some extent)
Because, the impact is distributed over a wide area.

PS: You always have to protect yourself against the knife with an official Stab Vest. This was just a test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4TP_a0rpjo

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by cram on May 4th, 2019 at 6:40pm
Timpa has officially revealed his secret to immortality  :o

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by timpa on May 4th, 2019 at 7:32pm
:) :)


terminator.JPG (30 KB | 16 )

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by TheJackinati on May 5th, 2019 at 3:45am
I was kinda expecting spikes... But awesome nonetheless!


Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Jaegoor on May 5th, 2019 at 6:34am
He Timpa.
Endlich mal ein gutes Video. 😁
Ich nehm die Birke. 😂
Ich gebe eines zu bedenken.
Aus der antike und Mittelalter, gibt es Berichte.
Sie erzählen, daß die Rüstung eines Soldaten oft völlig unbeschädigt blieb. Der Soldat aber war an inneren Verletzungen gestorben.
Ich erfuhr das auch hier von Polizisten. Ich kenne zwei Fälle aus Deutschland. Polizisten wurden bei einer Demonstration mit Slings beschossen. Sie erhielten Treffer an Bein und Schulter prodektoren. Diese blieben unbeschädigt. Die Knochen darunter brachen.
Aber es ist dennoch interessant und eine gute Arbeit.
Ich würde gerne darauf schießen. 😁

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by cram on May 5th, 2019 at 6:48am
@ Jaegoor

So there are German protesters using slings? :o

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Jaegoor on May 5th, 2019 at 7:09am
Ja. Es gibt einige verletzte Beamte. Ein Polizistin erhielt einen Treffer am Visier ihres Helmes. Das Visier brach. Die junge Frau erblindete auf einem Auge.
Es gibt auch einen Bericht aus Kiel.
Zu Silvester haben unbekannte auf eine Feuerwehr geschossen. Der Stein zerstörte die Scheibe und verletzte denn Feuerwehrmann schwer am Kopf.
Dennoch gilt die Schleuder nur als Spielzeug. Nicht als Waffe. Zum Glück.
Aber solche idioten zerstören vielleicht die Grundlage für einen Sport.
Man hat bisher noch keine Täter gefasst.
Aber es sind wohl nicht nur deutsche.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Bill Skinner on May 5th, 2019 at 2:34pm
Wow.  I guess a sling would be a good weapon for a rioter.  Pity.  I can see all sorts of laws restricting slings coming...

Well, back to Timpa and his genius in weaponizing practically anything.  And everything.

So, have you tried it out against a sling?  I don't think it could take a hit from a huge rock but probably could stop a thrown beer or coke bottle?  Or a ball bearing?

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by timpa on May 5th, 2019 at 6:08pm
Thanks Cram, Jackinati, Jaegoor and Bill  :)

I'd love to see Jaegoor throw this.
I haven't tried it myself. I don't want to destroy it.
The resulting pit, absorbs energy. But - as Jaegoor and Bill said - the shock can be too large.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Kick on May 6th, 2019 at 7:24am

Bill Skinner wrote on May 5th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Wow.  I guess a sling would be a good weapon for a rioter.


This is purely conjecture and not based on any actual statistics or historical evidence, but I wouldn't be surprised if slings have been used in the majority of riots and popular uprisings in history to some extent. It's an incredibly simple weapon to make, it can be devastating and large sections of the population (lower class sections but a large number of people nonetheless) would have had some experience with using them, even if it was just as children.

Honestly, if I was involved in revolution, one the first things I'd pick up is a sling. As Jaegoor was saying, even modern armour struggles against getting hit with a fast moving rock. My martial arts instructor (Choi Kwang Do) is a policeman and was on duty in Birmingham during the riots that happened across England a few years ago. He was in full riot gear and got hit in the head with a brick. He was actually uninjured but his helmet was badly damaged and the psychological impact was obvious. This is a guy with a handshake that could break your hand and could shout (kihap = "spirit yell") so loud it would leave your ears ringing and his voice was breaking as he recalled what happened and that was with a hand-thrown brick. Even two or three slingers mixed in with general rioters would be devastating.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Sarosh on May 6th, 2019 at 10:06am
I can't see how the sling would be effective in riots.
If one man does it, then he stands out and will become the target of riot police. If a lot do it then riot police will bring the big guns, water cannon, plastic bullets etc..


violence is ugly, watch "Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom" it's on netflix
hand throws are good enough 0:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqB84akDnM0&fbclid=IwAR0kyPjN5kHdsHaoCboIKAGo7-3vwOBkvoNvuhhqoZNKroLWKrs21TUHPVo
no need to get OP with a sling it's better to have the moral high ground.


Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by The Celestial Paladin on May 6th, 2019 at 10:13am
@ Jaegoor

Send me some links to those articles, I'd be interested to see them.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Jaegoor on May 6th, 2019 at 11:02am
https://m.kn-online.de/Kiel/Feuerwehr-will-sich-schuetzen

Das ist der Bericht mit der Feuerwehr. 2012 in kiel.
Das andere sind Berichte der Polizei. Diese kann ich Dir leider nicht zugänglich machen. Es sind Einsatzberichte zu denn Castor Transporten. Ich durfte auf Fotos schauen um slings zu finden. Ich fand mehrere. Bei Festnahmen fand die Polizei slings. Diese waren getarnt. Also verdeckt getragen. Eine war als Schnürsenkel an einem Stiefel. Eine andere sling war ein Riemen an einem Rucksack. Eine andere wurde als Gürtel getragen. Es ist sehr schwer so etwas zu finden. Oft stehen die schützen verdeckt hinter anderen.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 6th, 2019 at 11:13am
timpa versus terminator - My money is on timpa :-)

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Rat Man on May 6th, 2019 at 7:20pm
Amazing, Timpa.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by timpa on May 7th, 2019 at 4:06pm
Thanks guys!
However, it may be that the terminator is hard to beat with the sling  :)

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by Jauke on May 26th, 2019 at 4:21pm
I wonder how polycarbonate lexan plating would protect against sling stones?

A few mm thick thermoformed lexan breastplate would definitely be arrow and knife-proof.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 27th, 2019 at 9:55pm
I think it would work well.  Just a couple things.  It would work best if it had a curve, which would allow it to better deflect energy rather than only absorbing it.  And because a sling projectile is essentially working as a blunt force weapon, you would also want to have padding of some kind under the breastplate.  But with that I think it would be quite effective.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by NooneOfConsequence on May 27th, 2019 at 10:58pm
Very impressive Timpa! I really like the look of the weave too. I’m also impressed that you found an official test method to use for comparison against other cut protection devices.

Title: Re: Protect, against slinging stones.
Post by timpa on Jun 6th, 2019 at 1:30pm
Thanks!
(Although, the test exceeded the power of man.)

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