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Message started by cram on Apr 5th, 2019 at 2:13am

Title: "beefy" slings
Post by cram on Apr 5th, 2019 at 2:13am
So I made a "beefy" sling, and I notice that it releases a bit late. Do you guys have the same problem with "beefy" slings?

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by Sarosh on Apr 5th, 2019 at 2:49am
definitely.

heavier stones will somehow keep the mass ratio the same as of normal slings and it won't be that bad.

tapered release cord may help, that's what others believe . I haven't made up my mind yet.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by cram on Apr 5th, 2019 at 3:57am
Thanks :)

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by JudoP on Apr 5th, 2019 at 6:15am
You gotta match the mass of the projectile to the stiffness and weight of the sling.

Too light a projectile in a beefy sling and it will struggle to open the release cord out of the way and release late.

Too large a projectile in a flimsy sling can be unstable and roll out of the pouch.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by cram on Apr 5th, 2019 at 7:23am
Thanks again :)

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by magic beetle on Apr 5th, 2019 at 10:05am
what's a beefy sling?

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by walter on Apr 5th, 2019 at 10:14am
A sling 1.5 oz+? My slings are close to or slightly over 2 oz.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by cram on Apr 5th, 2019 at 11:18am

magic beetle wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 10:05am:
what's a beefy sling?

A "beefy sling", as I would call it(because I probably am the first to use that term)is a sling that is a bit heavy than an average sling.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by joe_meadmaker on Apr 5th, 2019 at 1:23pm

cram wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 11:18am:
first to use that term
Not quite, http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1553456361 ;)

But on topic, I've also run in to this problem.  Not very long ago I made a really big sling to throw some ice blocks that probably weighed a couple pounds each.  It was hard to get them to go forward.  I had to release at a point that felt way too early.  It was hard to get used to, but a fun experiment.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by Dan on Apr 5th, 2019 at 1:46pm
Small release knot with a tapered release and/or a release tab are highly recommended for heavier slings. Having a smaller release knot is like having a lighter trigger pull in a firearm, it won't guarantee a better shot, but it can definitely help with consistency.
Beyond that, placing the rotor (your hand) of the sling further away from the target will give you more time in which you can release at the appropriate time (earlier) with heavier ammo or with a heavier sling.

Rotor further back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaeMh8JvQNc



The rotor further forward (closer to the target).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2F5APr3WpY

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Apr 6th, 2019 at 12:14am

walter wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 10:14am:
A sling 1.5 oz+?


That’s a precise definition!  Does the length to weight ratio matter too? I would’ve thought that a beefy sling would at least have some cow leather in it too ;D

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by joe_meadmaker on Apr 6th, 2019 at 12:49am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Apr 6th, 2019 at 12:14am:
I would’ve thought that a beefy sling would at least have some cow leather in it too

That was too good ;D

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by cram on Apr 6th, 2019 at 3:38am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cram wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 11:18am:
first to use that term
Not quite, http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1553456361 ;)

But on topic, I've also run in to this problem.  Not very long ago I made a really big sling to throw some ice blocks that probably weighed a couple pounds each.  It was hard to get them to go forward.  I had to release at a point that felt way too early.  It was hard to get used to, but a fun experiment.

Thanks for pointing that out, now I feel less original  ;D
Dan wrote on Apr 5th, 2019 at 1:46pm:
Small release knot with a tapered release and/or a release tab are highly recommended for heavier slings. Having a smaller release knot is like having a lighter trigger pull in a firearm, it won't guarantee a better shot, but it can definitely help with consistency.
Beyond that, placing the rotor (your hand) of the sling further away from the target will give you more time in which you can release at the appropriate time (earlier) with heavier ammo or with a heavier sling.

Rotor further back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaeMh8JvQNc



The rotor further forward (closer to the target).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2F5APr3WpY

Thanks to Dan I will try those out :)

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by manospuercas on Apr 6th, 2019 at 4:16am
Would the stiffness of the sling material make a difference?

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by JudoP on Apr 6th, 2019 at 5:16am

manospuercas wrote on Apr 6th, 2019 at 4:16am:
Would the stiffness of the sling material make a difference?


Yes I believe it does, if you compare a sisal sling with a similar weight jute or nylon you get a noticeably poorer handling of very light projectiles.

Could be wrong though as I haven't tested it extensively.

Title: Re: "beefy" slings
Post by Jaegoor on Apr 6th, 2019 at 11:58am
Balearic slings sind in der Regel alle schwerer. Meine auch.
Ich schieße aber auch 180 bis 200 schwere Steine.
Auf denn Balearen gibt es einen schützen der über 500g schwere Steine schießt. Wenn seine Steine einschlagen, bete ich für die arme diane. 😁
Ein steifere sling ist genauer.

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