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Message started by The Celestial Paladin on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:27am

Title: Social Justice Cringe
Post by The Celestial Paladin on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:27am
Alright; recently I did a "Mock Legistlature" project for my government class which I proposed making amendments to bow season and accordingly change the name to "Primitive Season."

And then there's this person of a special type, because she dared to say "hunting is a ridiculous sport" in a Montana classroom. Oh but no, it doesn't end there...

I was accused of cultural appropriation of Native Americans, because some well meaning idiot (as I like to categorize these people) thought that natives are primitive and that ancient hunting tools used by most of humanity were only used or should only ever be used by them. Not to mention she thinks reservations make these laws legal. :-?

In other words she basically thought slinging, spear throwing, or atlatl use, especially for hunting is racist. Not only that, but somehow that these tools have spiritual significance. I don't even... :-/

First off, piss off for demeaning natives like that, saying only they can use "primitive things" because they're natives, second you are a special kind of stupid if you don't know how popular these things were among our ancestors.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by TheJackinati on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:42am
We have a very apt four-letter word to describe these types of people In Australia, which is in our common parlance and is not too offensive to us, but which is very, very offensive in other regions of the world. We'd also add another epithet ontop of this four-letter word. And it would be completely accurate.

People who feel the need to interject or 'defend' another person because of the colour of their skin, or for their gender or cultural identity etcetera... might have well meaning intentions... But god damn it, let them speak up for themselves, they certainly don't need you to drag them into stuff they don't want to be dragged into. People may have good intentions when they do this... but they take it way, way, way too far. To the point of extremism.

If a Native-american were present, they'd probably back you up in a second, and said other person's mind would probably begin to fry from some form of mental overload.

After all, said theoretical Native-american would probably object to being called 'Primative', in a bemeaning manner by some young female who obviously has little knowledge on the subject on which she is speaking... being spoken to as though "Oh its okay primative, I've got your back. You couldn't do anything without us to help you!" Blah-blah-blah. ;D

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Mersa on Mar 10th, 2019 at 6:01am
The social justice stuff drives me insane. This story makes me twitch.
I'll stop there before I go on a rant no one wants to hear.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by JudoP on Mar 10th, 2019 at 6:09am
People can have these opinions, but they should be thoroughly reminded that everyone else has the right to disregard them as idiotic  ;)

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Kick on Mar 10th, 2019 at 6:10am
I hate this because it really helps out those people that are against treating everyone decently as human beings because they can take this ridciulous stuff and say "See! Look how crazy and ridiculous these people are!" It actively harms the people they are wanting to help. It's not even a "pick your battles" situation it's a "what the EXPLETIVE are you talking about?" situation.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 15th, 2019 at 1:17pm
bet they are vegans :-)

Best just to pity them and move on :whistle:

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:46pm
At what point did “cultural appropriation“ become such a bad thing anyway?  The national anthem here in the US was written to the tune of a common English drinking song at a time when we were at war with England! How’s THAT for cultural appropriation?

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by TheJackinati on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:24am
Certain types of people use 'Cultural appropriation' to win debates.

To these sorts of people (Which are generally referred to as SJW or Social Justice Warriors), shouting "Cultural Appropriation" is essentially the Racism-lite card which you pull out on your opponent which you disagree with but cannot call them a racist yet. Cultural Appropriation generally has all the same connotations... which is very discouraging to their opposition, because if they offer protest to the label, they can then be called Rascist.

Which Is very, very sad. Because now adults go around insulting teenagers over their 'Culturally inspired' Prom dresses on the internet... pretty much to the point that fully grown adults said "You can't wear that, you're not chinese!"

Ahem. Double standards. Also racist.

The logic of these people. >:(

You might be happy to know, A lot of Chinese people didn't mind that said 'White' teenager in a prom dress didn't insult them. A lot were actually happy about it.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Mar 16th, 2019 at 11:48am
That only works if you accept the false premise that all cultural appropriation is bad. Deny the premise and the argument fails.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Rat Man on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:33pm
   Such people have good intentions but they take things to ridiculous, impractical extremes.  They are well meaning arses. 

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 17th, 2019 at 4:40pm
vegans - just sayin' :whistle:

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Mersa on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:54am
Vegans you say , the people who eat plants but don't want any creature they deem an animal to die, hmmm wonder how they do it .. sharing all their plants with animals that they buy from the convenience store while wearing synthetics and plant fiber clothes from third world countries and posting about it on a social media account from a phone with exotic minerals in it to make it work.. No animals die you say??? Can't See them being associated with irrational thinking , ha ha

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by TheJackinati on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:15am
Agreed. Vegetarians are awesome.

Vegans. Just say no. No to Vegans.

And Peta.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:10pm
got nothing against treating animals ethically.
Doesn't mean you can't eat them - just don't do horrible things to them first.

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Eudave on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:57pm
to anacreaon in heaven we sing in full glee

Title: Re: Social Justice Cringe
Post by Morphy on Jul 1st, 2019 at 6:55pm
Unfortunately this group of people is being heavily pushed at our universities here in the US. Hopefully some of you other countries are fairing better. Their slogans are often times heavily contradictory due to the fact that they operate mostly on emotion. Making them the perfect ready-made mob for any political or social group to whip up into a frenzy to pass more laws and gain more power.

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