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Message started by Thearos on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:35pm

Title: Two stones technique
Post by Thearos on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:35pm
Apparently in the "Cave Bear" series

https://medium.com/@SarahScullin/things-ayla-invented-in-the-clan-of-the-cave-bear-books-by-jean-m-auel-648c100cb753

(no. 21)

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by joe_meadmaker on Feb 26th, 2019 at 11:30am
How that site has it listed, the meaning could be misinterpreted.  The technique the main character developed wasn't throwing two stones at once.  She just learned how to throw two stones in quick succession.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Thearos on Feb 27th, 2019 at 4:12pm
Good lord someone who's read Auel

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by walter on Feb 27th, 2019 at 8:22pm
Two   :-[

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Tint on Feb 27th, 2019 at 9:41pm
I read Clan of the Cave Bear just because of the slinging. In the book Ayla could sling a stone, catch another with the sling pouch by tossing it in mid air and sling the second stone even stronger than the first so the two stones hit her target almost at the same time....the author obviously doesn't sling!

But it spawned my interest in rapid firing techniques though.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by RS on Mar 4th, 2019 at 11:48pm

Tint wrote on Feb 27th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
I read Clan of the Cave Bear just because of the slinging. In the book Ayla could sling a stone, catch another with the sling pouch by tossing it in mid air and sling the second stone even stronger than the first so the two stones hit her target almost at the same time....the author obviously doesn't sling!

But it spawned my interest in rapid firing techniques though.


cant do it by throwing ammo up in the air but i got friends who can by helicoptering one stone then lifting up another and catching it in the sling pouch then sling with one rotation and release with accuracy...one guy can do it fast and keep it going for as long as he has stones within reach.  another can do the same but about half the speed but still hits what he is aiming at. i've done two and a half, meaning the third stone came flying out before release and i did it really sllloooowwww.  but the one friend...well...not a friend, i really do not care much for the guy though i owe him a lot more than i could ever repay, he is truly the best slinger to ever live i am sure......he does it like magic or something.  so perhaps it is jealousy on my part

like everything with the sling it just takes practice.  the more practice the better ones gets. 

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by joe_meadmaker on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:07pm

RS wrote on Mar 4th, 2019 at 11:48pm:
helicoptering one stone then lifting up another and catching it in the sling pouch then sling with one rotation and release with accuracy

Is there video of that anywhere?  That would be very cool to see.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Jaegoor on Mar 6th, 2019 at 5:29am
https://youtu.be/tvW9M7PG9Vo

Ich finde Ayla gut. Aber die zwei Steine technik halte ich nicht für realistisch.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 6th, 2019 at 6:30am
forget anything and everything RS says - it's all 100% fiction.
To be honest I thought we'd got rid of him.

The clan of the cave bear has no basis in reality.
She did no research into either slinging or neanderthals.

I got about 2 chapters into the first book before giving up in disgust.

Two stones in the air at once is very doable.

And as jaegoor regularly demonstrates, most things can be done with enough practice.

But two stones from one pouch at the same time, both hitting different targets - which is also in the cavebear books - that won't work.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Jaegoor on Mar 6th, 2019 at 8:38am
Eine Methode gibt es noch. 😁 😁 😁

Aber mehr als ein Spaß ist es nicht.
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Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Kick on Mar 6th, 2019 at 10:19am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Is there video of that anywhere?  That would be very cool to see.


Asking RS for video evidence of an incredible slinging feat? Good luck. We haven't even gotten book titles out of him for his historical claims so far. "An old book on slinging" is about as far as we've got when it comes to evidence and references.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by joe_meadmaker on Mar 6th, 2019 at 10:20am
Thanks for the video link Jaegoor.  Great stuff!  I like the picture too.  I'll have to give that a try :D

@CA - I agree that Clan of the Cave Bear doesn't line up with current information of neanderthals.  As well as other inaccuracies.  But I wonder how much of that is because of the available information, as well as how difficult it may have been to find accurate information, at the time it was written.

That aside, I think this book did something else.  Which was to bring slinging (at least to an extent) into the public eye.  For me personally, I was aware of slings.  I had heard of David and Goliath.  I remember playing the game King's Quest, in which you can find a sling to kill a giant.  But it wasn't until after reading Cave Bear that my interest peaked enough that I wanted to make a sling and try it.  So I do tip my hat to Auel for that.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Mar 6th, 2019 at 10:34am

Kick wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 10:19am:

joe_meadmaker wrote on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Is there video of that anywhere?  That would be very cool to see.


Asking RS for video evidence of an incredible slinging feat? Good luck. We haven't even gotten book titles out of him for his historical claims so far. "An old book on slinging" is about as far as we've got when it comes to evidence and references.


Ha! I, for one, welcome the return of our “undocumented noodler”. His sources may not exist, but his posts are always entertaining... especially when people fall for it. I still chuckle at the thought of “Jesus the Noodler” or imagining gullible slingers slapping the water with flat rocks to try to catch a fish!  LOL

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Mersa on Mar 6th, 2019 at 4:15pm
Don't completely write RS off, he did give us the turkey throw , the rest however is likely bs.

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by funditor on Mar 13th, 2019 at 6:04am
Once I got a proper book reference from RS about south American Inca culture using slings,  just wanted to state that also...

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 13th, 2019 at 7:37am
nah, he's gone.
life is too short for some things. He was one of them.

As far as jean auel goes, pretty sure she was just making stuff up. Some authors do.
Dan brown is a good case in point.
He does a lot of research on the locations - holidays.
But very little on the actual science aspects.

If the books about something you know very little about, then they're great.
But if you know something about the scientific aspects, then you spend most of the book, mentally shouting: 'bollocks !'.
The one with the antimatter in the vatican, that really wound me up lol

I could have found it inside an hour, just by looking at which network extender it was attached to.  It was sending video, so using a fair bit of bandwidth too from an ip connected camera. Any half competent it guy would have found it really easily, while having his or her lunch.

And that, doesn't even account for the power drain of the container/ given that it would have needed superconductors and liquid nitrogen cooled coils to generate the required magnetic field. Not a couple of batteries.
Or for the fact that nobody has yet created and contained antimatter for any significant period of time - if at all.

That said - he is improving, the virology one was actually very good.

Anyway, I had done a fair bit of research into neanderthals before I started a cave bear book. And gave up fairly shortly thereafter :-)

Title: Re: Two stones technique
Post by Jaegoor on Mar 13th, 2019 at 8:00am
Die Bücher sind gut lesbar. Die ersten beiden. Dann eher nicht mehr. Ich halte die Technik für nicht machbar. Es kann mir aber gerne jemand etwas anderes zeigen. Ich lerne gern. 😁

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