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Message started by Mersa on Aug 29th, 2017 at 4:56pm

Title: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Aug 29th, 2017 at 4:56pm
I'm looking for some decent glandes too keep in my kit to take with me when I go bush.
Got permission to hunt on a friends farm and wanting some good ammo for the task

Ideally:
1 bipoint
2 metal ( steel lead tungsten )
3 around 75-150g

Point me in the right direction


Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Bill Skinner on Aug 29th, 2017 at 6:03pm
Egg shaped lead fishing weights, the ones with the hole through the middle.  In your choice of weights.

Most of the guys that make glandes will sell you one or two, after that, the shipping gets to be really expensive.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Aug 29th, 2017 at 7:19pm
Yeah fishing weights are what I have used before but I'm not convinced on the shapes I've found locally. Either too small and a good shape or wrong shape and good weight. Was looking for something a little nicer.

Also lead is not overly durable.
Was hoping there might be a better option out there.






Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Curious Aardvark on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:18am
clay :-)
was what our ancestors used.
cheap, easy to use and make and I know a guy who makes moulds in any size and shape you like :-)

I know americans who hunt have a tendency to ignore animal welfare. But bear in mind that you are far more likely to injure an animal than kill it outright.
So try and humanely dispatch anything you maim. 

Hunting is NOT a game. Don't treat it like one.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Morphy on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:48am
Mersa heres my poor man's solution.

Go to your local hardware store and buy 2.5 to 3 inch long bolts or large nails. Thickest you can buy. Thats your core. You will need a metal file as well. Sharpen the threaded end (if a bolt) to a sharp point with the file. If you have a belt sander, even better. Then wrap something around the body of the bolt or nail to build up the glande shape and impregnate it with jb weld. Make sure you smooth it well before it sets because its a pain to sand down. You can use wire wrapping or really anything you have on hand, but the denser the better.

One side will be very sharp for larger critters, the other will be blunt for birds and such. Fairly cheap, tough as nails etc. It will get the job done. Just make sure the body is as smooth as possible.

Lastly take some reflective tape and wrap it around the glande keeping it as smooth as possible. If you lose a glande and its not buried completely in the ground you can come back at dusk with a flash light and shine it in the area. The glande will shine like a light and be fairly easy to find.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Aug 30th, 2017 at 5:27pm
Thanks guys 
And don't worry CA I'm not going out trying to hurt things with the sling.
Sling will be only aimed at feral rabbits at best I suspect.
And I'm hoping hits are quick or recoverable kills.
Hense my trying to stock up on suitable ammo.

Clay seems like a nice option for lots of ammo.
Sharp bolts have interesting impact quality.
And fishing weights have the best density




Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Curious Aardvark on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:05am
This Topic was moved here from Market Place by Curious Aardvark.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Sep 8th, 2017 at 5:29pm
So I had a bit of luck yesterday at the hardware store and walked past the plumb bobs. I purchased a 150g weight and had a go at a empty field to try it out unfortunately it's penetration was too good and it is now lost buried somewhere in the field. Need a metal detector I think.
Anyway I went and purchased another to my dismay.
Now I'm thinking of joining 2 together to try make a bipoint.
This will weigh over 300g
Too much??
150 feels heavy 300 might be injury prone.

Let us know what you think

Good cheap ready availability


Standard and with extra bolt bearing combo.

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Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Jaegoor on Sep 8th, 2017 at 5:42pm
https://fundamittere.jimdo.com/formenbau/

https://www.bleigussformen-shop.de/F45-Carp-Ball-120-140

https://www.bleigussformen-shop.de/Do-it-Form-1174-Olivenblei-170-227

The best

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Morphy on Sep 8th, 2017 at 9:20pm
10 ounces would certainly leave a pretty big hole in any rabbit. I suspect you will be losing a good deal of any ammo you use unless you are a very, very good shot. With the exception of stones, concrete, clay etc cost will be an important consideration.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:45pm
Totally agree. I need to make a lead mould. Will be the best and most economical of the metals. I like the durability or steel.
Got to test out the damage this does today. Think it's gonna be good enough. Pointy or blunt end.
10oz too much???


Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Morphy on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:19pm
Either end will kill it. Assuming you are slinging it around 30 m/s or faster it will never know what hit it. The kill may not be instant but thats true with bows and .22s as well. Come to think of it, I would choose that set up over my typical small game bow.

Be ready with a hardwood club to run up and finish it off if necessary. If you are slinging a 10 oz. glande at least 30 m/s it would be like you being hit by a basketball sized boulder thrown by a major league pitcher.  So, as far as KE goes, no worries. Just put the shot where it needs to go.

Edit: Not too much unless you are slinging extremely fast. You dont want to rupture the bladder. I dont think you could go wrong with 5-6 oz. But 10 will work.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:42pm
Yeah great advice, I have a club I use for splitting wood with my knife. Should be perfect.
Unfortunately I don't know what speeds I'm getting. I had estimated throws between 30 and 45m/s with iPhone footage but recently discovered about the shutter roll so my estimated speeds are invalid. Thrown over 110m measured and from what I can tell this requires some m/s so hope I'm getting atleast 30m/s
Punches holes straight through chip board. Leaves big dents in steel.
And as far as accuracy goes I'd say I'm better with my bow but as you said the sling setup seems very suitable to rabbits.
For this reason it will be my second choice in weapons but probably what I'll prefer to use (fun/ satisfaction). situations pending.


Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Parmenion on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:19am
the thing you bought would make a nice meteor hammer.

never hunted before but i think stones would be enough for small game ,  skill and lead maybe are enough for a boar

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Sep 9th, 2017 at 6:48am
It's interesting revising the damage that different ammo does on my targets but the increase in penetration of lead on softer materials is evident. Steel being harder packs better penetration on harder stuff.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Parmenion on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:32am
sling is like a club , a blunt weapon doesn't necessarily need penetration to kill.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by kicktheotter on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:37am
I may have posted about this already but I now can't remember... Anyway, talking of using a plum bob as a meteor hammer, I got a pretty cheap one off eBay to use as a kusari fundo, the Japanese weapon which is basically a weight (or two weights on each end) of a short chain. It's quite an interesting weapon design and I was pretty easily able to DIY one. I didn't even think about using it in a sling but yeah that type of weight with the pointed end? Ouch.
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Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by kicktheotter on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:40am
Oh and if anyone is wondering how pointy that end is, with some sweeping strikes at just the right distance, I was able to cut cardboard. Not just smash holes but actually cut.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Mersa on Sep 9th, 2017 at 4:50pm
I can believe that !!!my plumb bob was sharp as until it poked a few holes in a car door.
Would be a deadly mentor hammer .
Scorpion off mortal combat.
Get over here
Can't find the tungsten bits to make timpas ammo
Sigh

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Rat Man on Sep 18th, 2017 at 2:17am
I'd probably go with what Bill suggested. The shape is aerodynamic and you can get them in any weight you want, from 1/16th to 8 oz. You can buy them online from Bass Pro Shops, Cabela's, Gander Mountain, or any other fishing supply store.
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Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by jeffbonds on Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:20pm
get some cement and make whatever shape you wanted like the bipointed projectile and you could spray paint them a collar thatd be easy to find

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by redgalvin on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:34pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:18am:
clay :-)
was what our ancestors used.
cheap, easy to use and make and I know a guy who makes moulds in any size and shape you like :-)

I know americans who hunt have a tendency to ignore animal welfare. But bear in mind that you are far more likely to injure an animal than kill it outright.
So try and humanely dispatch anything you maim. 

Hunting is NOT a game. Don't treat it like one.


"I know americans who hunt have a tendency to ignore animal welfare." What a bigoted ass you are!

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by vetryan15 on Jan 13th, 2018 at 3:36pm

redgalvin wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:34pm:

Curious Aardvark wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:18am:
clay :-)
was what our ancestors used.
cheap, easy to use and make and I know a guy who makes moulds in any size and shape you like :-)

I know americans who hunt have a tendency to ignore animal welfare. But bear in mind that you are far more likely to injure an animal than kill it outright.
So try and humanely dispatch anything you maim. 

Hunting is NOT a game. Don't treat it like one.


"I know americans who hunt have a tendency to ignore animal welfare." What a bigoted ass you are!

That's a bit uncalled for.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by TobyAttle on Jan 14th, 2018 at 7:45pm
I like to use lead bank sinkers. They are the perfect shape for throwing and can punch a hole through a washing machine, so they should have no problem taking down a rabbit or even a coyote.

Title: Re: Hunting glandes (wanted)
Post by Morphy on Jan 15th, 2018 at 2:47pm
Redgalvin he's just giving an opinion. Most people not famaliar with the hunting community here in America probably have a similar opinion. The hunting porn on TV doesn't help much to dissuade that kind of thinking.

I know a lot of hunters and I've not met one that doesn't care about clean kills. Not saying they aren't out there but they aren't the majority by a long shot from my experience.

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