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Message started by Drakolith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:42am

Title: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Drakolith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:42am
I've heard some say to let go of the release cord when the knot is over your target. I've also heard some say to try and stop your hand over the target. Lastly I've heard many say that archiving accuracy with a sling depends on practice and developing instinct, I lean more towards this. What are y'alls theories/beliefs on this?

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:29am
The two big things I think are important are using good consistent ammunition and dissecting your sling throw into individual parts and modifying/practicing each part until you get the best results. If you want to really understand the mindset youtube a video on the indvidual parts of a baseball pitch. It's highly refined and consistent. And it works.

Can't give more specific info than that because unlike a baseball pitch there are many ways to sling.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:07am
one thing is sure ,don't stop your hand, follow through.

slinging(and generally throwing) is dynamic ,rifle shooting,archery, slingshot shooting etc are more static.

although im not as accurate as Jaegoor yet  :P i believe that aiming can be done but i have to say sling is the most difficult instrument to aim with.(If you think there is another please tell me.)

i'm thinking of writing some of my ideas on aiming with a sling but i want to write it nicely and not hastily.

for now i recommend practicing but not the kind of practice most think "i'll just throw stones around and someday it will come to me", but with intent, train your will to hit the target

try to pay attention to every little movement during the throw, fix what you think is wrong, learn what you must do to hit the target try to repeat it.

learning/training is mind over body
using the skill is body over mind (instinctive)

i recommend playing darts. it may not help you with the technique but i believe it will train your mind.


also i want to add: have you ever played pool? playing pool will show you how the mind can see what it needs to be done but the body won't listen ,very frustrating sometimes



Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:37am
To build it up quickly (relatively) you need consistent ammo. Not necessarily fixed target and fixed distance. But consistent ammo really helps.

That said, if you use picked up stones, it'll tak longer but your body will learn to adjust for different types of ammo.

I'm pretty accurate with a tennis ball up to around 50 metres, particularly with moving targets.
But that's because i spent 10 years slinging for a moving dog.

But it pretty much is practice, practice and then a bit more practice. Videos are good too. Surprising what you learn watching yourself sling.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Drakolith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:21pm
Thanks for your thoughts guys. Feel free to post any more. Oh, and I have played pool before.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Tomas on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:41pm
Get a friend to play catch with you. They would use s baseball glove or even better a lacrosse stick and it will make you throw not just accurately but also keep you from shooting too hard.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by walter on Mar 29th, 2017 at 11:35pm

Tomas wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Get a friend to play catch with you. They would use s baseball glove or even better a lacrosse stick and it will make you throw not just accurately but also keep you from shooting too hard.


+1 ;)

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Jaegoor on Mar 30th, 2017 at 12:21am
Alex ich möchte sehen ihre Fähigkeit mit einem Tennisball auf ein bewegliches Ziel auf 50m Distanz

;)

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by SlingerDave on Mar 30th, 2017 at 1:33pm
Like the rest of us, I'm a long shot from being a deadeye slinging, but I try to think of the path the stone will take.

For example, when slinging balearic style I envision the upward curve of the stone and adjust myself to the target.

But... this will work best if the ammunition is consistent.

Those are my thoughts on the topic.




Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Curious Aardvark on Mar 30th, 2017 at 1:47pm

Jaegoor wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 12:21am:
Alex ich möchte sehen ihre Fähigkeit mit einem Tennisball auf ein bewegliches Ziel auf 50m Distanz

;)


lol I never said it was a small target :-)

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by timann on Mar 30th, 2017 at 3:23pm
To be reasonably accurate I simply empty my head, focus on where I want to hit, and throw.  Seems to work well, for me.  I can`t think of how to swing the sling or the ballistic stuff at all when I try to aim at stuff. So I has to work on slinging styles and tecnical minutiae separately.  And it takes, as they say, lots of practice. 

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Mar 30th, 2017 at 5:08pm
Years ago I heard a Chinese master of martial arts say this about mastering Kung Fu and it's only now that I've been slinging for awhile that it makes sense.  "Learn it all, then forget it all. Learn the way, then find your own way."  This thread makes me think of that.....  If I remember it correctly it was Jet Li from the movie The Forbidden Kingdom. 65% on rotten tomatoes. Definitely worth a watch.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Blowgunman123 on Mar 31st, 2017 at 7:58pm
At the beginning its learning and mastering muscle memory. After a while your body can just pick up a sling and shoot right where you want too. At least that's what its been like for me recently. :)

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Rat Man on Apr 3rd, 2017 at 3:54pm
   Everything written above is absolutely correct. Consistent ammo is important. The most important thing is practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, etc....  it took years for me to become relatively accurate. I still couldn't compete with Jaegoor but at least I can hit what I'm aiming at a lot of the time now.
   A few things that I didn't see mentioned above that are important for accuracy... don't throw at 100% full power. Most of our experienced members sling at somewhere around 75 to 85% full power.  The difference in distance and hitting power is negligible.  The difference in accuracy is immense. 
   This leads to my next bit of advice, and this applies to any activity or sport from bowling to pool to martial arts to throwing a baseball.  Make sure that your muscles are loose when you sling. If you are straining and tight you will never be accurate in slinging or anything else. RELAX or accuracy will evade you forever.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Dan on Apr 4th, 2017 at 8:41pm
Consistent ammo. Practice. Target that allows you to actually aim (not just distance throwing or "that group of trees") and preferably re-use ammunition. Refine form. Post videos of form on here if you want a critique. Practice. Find a perfect sling length and type for you. Practice.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by HeavyHanded on May 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am

Rat Man wrote on Apr 3rd, 2017 at 3:54pm:
   Everything written above is absolutely correct. Consistent ammo is important. The most important thing is practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, etc....  it took years for me to become relatively accurate. I still couldn't compete with Jaegoor but at least I can hit what I'm aiming at a lot of the time now.
   A few things that I didn't see mentioned above that are important for accuracy... don't throw at 100% full power. Most of our experienced members sling at somewhere around 75 to 85% full power.  The difference in distance and hitting power is negligible.  The difference in accuracy is immense. 
   This leads to my next bit of advice, and this applies to any activity or sport from bowling to pool to martial arts to throwing a baseball.  Make sure that your muscles are loose when you sling. If you are straining and tight you will never be accurate in slinging or anything else. RELAX or accuracy will evade you forever.


The above two bits are priceless.

Recently my consistency has taken a huge turn in the good direction, meaning now I finally have a real foundation to build some accuracy instead of the odd shot that actually hits well - which is still great fun but not so good for improvement.

Don't try for 100% power, and keep things nice and loose.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by TobyAttle on Jun 8th, 2017 at 6:46pm
When slinging the stone travels along the tangent velocity of a rotating sling. If the sling is traveling not in a circle, but in an ellipse, and the lengthened end is pointing toward your target you have much more room for error and are more likely to hit the target ;). I find that this technique works best when using a Balearic, helicopter, or similar sidearm throw. When I came up with this and integrated it into my regular technique my accuracy greatly improved. To make the sling travel in an elliptical pattern, simply taking a step and moving your arm to the front of the body to follow through is sufficient. This technique is very similar to how Luis Pons Livermore throws and I believe this is how he achieves such great accuracy.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Drakolith on Jun 8th, 2017 at 7:48pm
Toby, could you get us a video of this? I'm not the best when it comes to interpreting body movements by text alone.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by TobyAttle on Jun 8th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Drakolith wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Toby, could you get us a video of this? I'm not the best when it comes to interpreting body movements by text alone.

You could look at a video of Luis Pons Livermore, I know David Morningstar uploaded a great video to youtube of him slinging in slow motion, but I will try to record myself doing this if you want.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Drakolith on Jun 9th, 2017 at 2:51am
That would be nice. Especially if you could go through the movements you've described slowly a few times. Of course, only if it's not a bother.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:15am
it's practice. Pure and simple.

If you look at the wo guys who are currently at the top of the balearic target slinging tree. Jaegoor and luis, they practice A LOT.
Both have their own permament sling ranges and both use consistent ammo.

So that's one level of slinging.
And it has quite specific parameters that most of us will never get the chance to use on a long term basis.

Personally I like to sling with different sized, shape and weight missiles.  It's harder to hit stuff but with sufficient practice you get more accurate with any ammo. and it has much better application in the real world.

That said - both luis and jaegoor can pretty much hit you at any distance with any ammo. And yes I do speak from experience lol

At the end of the day good technique comes from practice, not necessarily the other way round.

Consistent ammo is a lot less important than most of you believe (says the guy selling the moulds to make consistent ammo). http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1496247190/2#2
At the end of the day the ammo is less significant than the sheer number of hours you put in training your muscle memory. 

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:16am

TobyAttle wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
. If the sling is traveling not in a circle, but in an ellipse, and the lengthened end is pointing toward your target you have much more room for error and are more likely to hit the target


i discovered the same thing in december , it improved my accuracy being conscious about it.
it's so simple logic that i was wondering if every accurate slinger knew it .




Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:18am
you might just as well say; overhand throws are more accurate than helicopter throws.

Any time you reduce the plane of release you cut down the likelyhood of the missile going it's own way.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Jun 9th, 2017 at 8:35am

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:18am:
you might just as well say; overhand throws are more accurate than helicopter throws.

Any time you reduce the plane of release you cut down the likelyhood of the missile going it's own way.



I wish there was a way to prove this for sure. One of the things we lack in the slinging community is a large group of people to pool data from.  There are many questions we could answer on technique if we had millions of people refining slinging to an Olympic-esque level.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by wanderer on Jun 9th, 2017 at 10:06am

johan wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:16am:

TobyAttle wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
. If the sling is traveling not in a circle, but in an ellipse, and the lengthened end is pointing toward your target you have much more room for error and are more likely to hit the target


i discovered the same thing in december , it improved my accuracy being conscious about it.
it's so simple logic that i was wondering if every accurate slinger knew it .


Does this differ from saying that your arm/hand is moving directly towards the target on release? Surely that is what converts the circular path of the sling into an ellipse.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jun 9th, 2017 at 10:32am
@wanderer no difference
just some people do a more circular motion with the arm and it's more difficult to release at the right time .




Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by HeavyHanded on Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:27pm
I am slowly putting together a list of factors that are not instinctive for me but all need to be represented.

Not trying for full power is huge.

Keeping loose is huge.

I recently began prompting myself to myself to get my arm fully extended on the release. This has made a big difference not only in improving consistency, but has led to an increase in velocity without putting any more muscular power into the swing.

IDK if my arm is even getting to a fully extended state, but just prompting myself to try has proven a big help.


Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by TobyAttle on Jun 11th, 2017 at 1:21am

wanderer wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 10:06am:

johan wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:16am:

TobyAttle wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
. If the sling is traveling not in a circle, but in an ellipse, and the lengthened end is pointing toward your target you have much more room for error and are more likely to hit the target


i discovered the same thing in december , it improved my accuracy being conscious about it.
it's so simple logic that i was wondering if every accurate slinger knew it .


Does this differ from saying that your arm/hand is moving directly towards the target on release? Surely that is what converts the circular path of the sling into an ellipse.

When I sling I am less conscious about where my hand is moving, and more about where the sling is moving. Imagine the sling as an extension to your arm, and the pouch is your new hand. When I release the pouch is moving along the ellipse and toward the target, my hand is also moving toward the target, but at the moment of release crosses over for the follow- through. Hoped that helped. I was slinging the other day and was surprised when I got three out of four rocks in a row in a four inch grouping from ten meters using this technique.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Jaegoor on Jun 11th, 2017 at 1:41pm
Ich habe das genaue zielen hier schon erklärt. Tun sie es und haben sie Erfolg .

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jun 11th, 2017 at 5:34pm

Jaegoor wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Ich habe das genaue zielen hier schon erklärt. Tun sie es und haben sie Erfolg .


do you have any link?
or
do you remember the title of the post?

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by jlasud on Jun 12th, 2017 at 4:35pm
From my experience ,these are some aspects that help my accuracy:

Slinging relaxed,but sharp. 70-80% power

Focusing on the middle of the target. Aim small,miss small

Being aware of the release knot, and how it pulls on my hand,i.e. feeling the sling, sensing, where it is while rotating.

Clear mind. not thinking too much. or at all ,at least when throwing.

Consistent ammo,consistent throwing moves.

Stepping into the throw, just in the right time, can really increase your time window to release,for an accurate shot.

Being aware, that the sling releases way away from your body. The closer you sling at, the sharper this angle of your vision, and the angle of the release is.

You got to get the feel of it,and let it happen, by not trying to do it,letting it happen, by being aware of every aspect of it, not overthink it,just sensing, how does it work.  My most accurate shots ,always come with a riding the flow feeling. While rotating, I got the feeling that,I'm on,and it's 100% HIT, I pull, and BAMM it's dead on. I just wish, I'd have those much more :D

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:40am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2O6mQkFiiw
ted-ed on practice...


Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by RC on Jun 16th, 2017 at 4:43pm
I find this thread very helpful, thanks.

In my opinion, so called muscle memory is crucial in any activity that requires muscle coordination. I've heard somwhere an ingenious tip, that fastly improves this matter and I use it ever since in any game or skill I want to learn.

It's simple and logical - everytime you do something right, immediately try to replicate it exactly the same way. That's it.

I'm really bad at slinging as I'm still learning how to feel comfortable with one in my hand. When I'm trying to hit a 50 cm target at the distance of 40-50 meters, it can take me 10 or 15 minutes. But when I smash it, it's often 3 or 4 times in a row, just by focusing on repeating the correct shot with my eyes and mind on the target. Try it, you may be amazed.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jun 16th, 2017 at 5:00pm

RC wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 4:43pm:
it can take me 10 or 15 minutes. But when I smash it, it's often 3 or 4 times in a row,


that is very good accuracy.

excitement :D prevents me from repeating the same movement.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by RC on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:27pm

johan wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 5:00pm:
that is very good accuracy.


Did I mention the rest of the projectiles miss the spot by an embarassing distances? ;D

Repeating comes naturally, because you just did it 3 seconds earlier, thus muscles still "remember" the move. Don't overthink, re-enact the feeling of the body instead. And as I mentioned, this can be tried on anything, as long as the manouver lasts 2-3 seconds. It won't work on 2 minute complicated balley sequence though :D

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Drakolith on Jun 16th, 2017 at 8:58pm
Thanks for the video Parmenion, it makes sense.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by kicktheotter on Jun 17th, 2017 at 6:55am
One good thing can be to throw the sling out without ammo a few times just to warm everything up especially if you are still getting comfortable using one.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Leon on Jul 10th, 2017 at 2:25pm

johan wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:07am:
also i want to add: have you ever played pool? playing pool will show you how the mind can see what it needs to be done but the body won't listen ,very frustrating sometimes

oh god how i can relate to that

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Mersa on Jul 10th, 2017 at 2:36pm
Like most of my aiming, Thinking or aiming too long makes me much worse. Instinct shoot and imagine the shot.

Don't try too hard.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Parmenion on Jul 30th, 2017 at 4:06am
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/420252/why-physics-and-not-biomechanics-determines-human-throwing-accuracy/#comments


"Why Physics and Not Biomechanics Determines Human Throwing Accuracy"

  interesting...

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Mersa on Jul 30th, 2017 at 5:50am
Nice , I am working on a new style of slinging and it's slow and over arm . Not sure if it's a style commonly used but I'm gaining great accuracy and it's looking promising in the early stages . I'll take a video soon

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by wanderer on Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:12am

johan wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 4:06am:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/420252/why-physics-and-not-biomechanics-determines-human-throwing-accuracy/#comments


"Why Physics and Not Biomechanics Determines Human Throwing Accuracy"

  interesting...


Nice find!

But I thought the paper was a disappointment. The final version has only just been published in Proc Roy Soc. I'll post the link if anyone who cares can't find it(!). The second author has just become an FRS - which is a big deal, so he ought to be taken seriously, but it wasn't on the basis of this paper, I think.

The headline 'Physics not biomechanics' seems nonsense to me. There is a chain of variables and uncertainties right from muscle control to the release of the projectile, but the analysis more or less throws out the biomechanics, and summarizes everything in uncertainties in launch speed and launch angle. It might have something to do with biomechanics if they investigated the way in which biomechanical matters affected the launch speed and angle, but they appear not to do so.


Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:07pm
Didnt read the paper, but I agree. Was the title written that way to be more provocative?

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by wanderer on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 8:39am

Morphy wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 1:07pm:
Didnt read the paper, but I agree. Was the title written that way to be more provocative?

I think maybe!

Since the authors'  'thing' seems to be biomechanics there seems to have been a definite attempt to make the paper relevant to that sub-subject of physics/engineering, but I feel the argument is very weak. It's never a good sign that it takes seven years to get a paper published. It looks like it was rejected for publication at least once, and it only got published with additions after one of the authors was elected F.R.S.

I'm not sure if the Royal Society does the same kind of thing the National Academy of Sciences does, which is to allow a Fellow to submit papers and have them 'rather lightly' refereed. I may be being uncharitable - but ... :(.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by HeavyHanded on Sep 1st, 2017 at 1:18pm
One thing I've begun to notice now that I have settled on a sling construction that works well with me:

Using a figure 8 method I've noticed how important it is to have a consistent inertia leading into the power stroke. So for a lighter stone or tennis ball, I drop from a lower height initially and then am not "chasing" the shot on the release.

A heavier shot I drop from higher up so it has a bit more inertia.

Between that and all the other good advice on this thread I've gotten steadily more accurate.

Another factor that helped me out was to swap out the release knot for a football shaped plastic bead.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Sep 1st, 2017 at 1:41pm
Very insightful HeavyHanded.

Another thing to practice for those interested in the fig-8 is to create a lag angle on the sling at the "pull"  into the powerstroke that gives you very low leverage and therefore creates more resistance to the initial "pull" into the powerstroke.

This allows you to pull harder and slower into the powerstroke with your arm. Essentially creating a high torque/low rpm type scenario with your arm which gives you a more efficient and controllable movement with the sling.

So for newer slingers heres a little secret.  By definition you cannot slow down the movement of the sling much without losing a lot of speed. What you can do is set up the powerstroke so that your arm is pulling harder and slower. The slower your arm is moving the more it becomes a rudder to carefully guide the last arc of the sling instead of trying to violently swing it and aim at the same time.



Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by HeavyHanded on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:46am
Here is another element on my incremental path to improved accuracy.

A big part of accuracy being consistency, I switched recently from a bare crown knot to a plastic bead that covers the knot and allows for the exact same release friction every time.

This has helped. If before I could play catch at 30 yards and someone could catch the ball 30% of the time without moving their feet, now it is closer to 75% of the time. Maybe half would hit them somewhere if they didn't react.

Realizing I do NOT have any sort of natural talent for slinging I continue to look for ways to make it easier. If it were as close as possible to something I can already do - throw a ball or toss a javelin, maybe it would improve my consistency and then accuracy can be worked toward in a systematic way.

per the pics, I show the bead, then the bead as I normally hold it, lastly the bead as I have been experimenting - holding it like a claw, hand as it would be if I were holding a ball. I use a figure 8 and simply wind up and throw, there is no release of thumb in place of opening hand, just open the hand.

I have tried this with the bead and some of my knots and it seems to have helped accuracy yet again. I was surprised that it didn't feel like a weak hold when slinging rocks compared to tennis balls.
Food for thought.





Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by kicktheotter on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:53am
Claw type hold... Interesting. I think I'm going to have to try that out sometime soon.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Jaegoor on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:12am
:P ;)
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Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Jaegoor on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:52am
8-)
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Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Jaegoor on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:54am
Die Perle hat sich bewährt.  Aber ich verwende sie heute nicht mehr.
Das ist meine jetzige Lösung.  Funktioniert hervorragend.
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Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by Morphy on Sep 13th, 2017 at 11:00am
Im sort of like you Heavyhanded. I want to make it as easy as possible. I use a 3 finger grip. I feel like the more surface area of contact you have on a tab the less force you have to grip the tab or cord with. I find a well made tab gives an extremely smooth, quick release.

I like the idea of a plastic tab. How is it holding up to wear and tear? I originally used a leather tab but found when it would get wet it would release slower and mess up my timing. Quite significantly at times. Plastic is a good way around that. I use a paracord tab. It also seems to work well.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by HeavyHanded on Sep 13th, 2017 at 11:27am

Morphy wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 11:00am:
Im sort of like you Heavyhanded. I want to make it as easy as possible. I use a 3 finger grip. I feel like the more surface area of contact you have on a tab the less force you have to grip the tab or cord with. I find a well made tab gives an extremely smooth, quick release.

I like the idea of a plastic tab. How is it holding up to wear and tear? I originally used a leather tab but found when it would get wet it would release slower and mess up my timing. Quite significantly at times. Plastic is a good way around that. I use a paracord tab. It also seems to work well.


I have used wooden beads before and they did not hold up well, probably the hole was too large and overall size of the bead too small.

These are holding up very well, despite being pretty thin at the base where the crown not is partially recessed. Have whacked it on aluminum pool frame a bunch of times and no problem. They are made from the cut stick backer from a commercial paper cutter. Am pretty sure its just #2 plastic.

In fact this entire sling is holding up incredibly compared to past efforts. Gutted 550 paracord with a four strand flat braid for the retention loop and line, Rockman type split pouch, four strand round release line into the bead/crown knot.

It doesn't make a nice crack on release, more of a whomp,  but it is showing zero wear and that with a fair amount of stone through it - mostly tennis balls though.

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by vetryan15 on Sep 13th, 2017 at 11:50am
Jaegoor. I am always amazed by your work, have you ever made an ugly sling?

Title: Re: Sling Accuracy. How do you think it's achived?
Post by jeffbonds on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:15am
for me when i think about it i dont hit my target the thing that i have learned is you need to collect a bunch of rocks or what not that are roughly the same weight and shape and just throw often when i was good at it before i got busy and have gone 5 or so months without throwing i just went out and knocked bits of scrap wood off things and threw at some trees walking around throwing at things till i started getting how high to hold at certain distances

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