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Title: Forging bodkins Post by SlingerDave on Dec 30th, 2016 at 6:37pm
As part of the crossbow project, I have to make something to shoot, and they don't sell 1/2 inch field points so I first started with the arrowheads. Now, the bodkin made is only my sixth attempted. Things will go smoother as I get more experience.
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Title: Re: Forging bodkins Post by Mauro Fiorentini on Dec 30th, 2016 at 7:05pm
awwww I had forged a whole bunch of these, back in the days *.*
Suggestion, try to hammer in a way that you stretch the iron, I mean to the "outside" of the iron bar. You're hammering straigth from the top to the bar while you'll be quicker and more precise if you hammer like from top left to bottom right (slanting hammering I mean). See how you flattened the iron bar in a round? If you adopt slanting hammering you'd make it a rectangle, which will be easier to fold in a cylinder. Also you'll make the point more quickly if you stretch the iron towards it point rather than hitting it always in the same portion. Also, move the anvil closer to the forge so that you won't spend time moving the hot iron (the less you move while forging the more you keep your energies for the hammering) :) Third, when making the cylinder there's no need for hard hitting. See how you sometimes miss the beat? the iron sheet is so thin, you can be less aggressive - save energies for the next arrowhead, this is something you learn when you've to make almost one of them every minute :o :) And use the rounded side of the hammer for this job. Anyway I'm not trying to be a hater here, I really like when someone smiths iron and I'd just like to be of help. So now, to the compliments :) The arrowhead turned out simply great. It looks heavy and it'd be nice to test it with a bow and see the differences with the crossbow. You have a very good grip on the thongs. You show no hesitations in holding them and this is pretty much as good as having a good hammering technique. You master the thongs so good job :) You have a nice forging implant, looks like an electric forge. Focus on hammering the iron at the right temperature (moving the anvil closer to the forge will help) and you'll eventually discover the pleasure of turning iron into reliable steel. Remember that each iron billet has its own temperature and forging time, it's insane to think that 2 forged items will need the same care. Lern to listen to the iron in order to understand how much carbon it's carrying and how long and hard you will have to work it :) Good job pal, how old are you? |
Title: Re: Forging bodkins Post by SlingerDave on Dec 31st, 2016 at 9:19am
Don't worry Mauro, I don't see hate. I think the old saying goes that hating is listing all the problems but none of the solutions for those problems. You have given me the solutions I need; if you have more feel free to share them ;D. Thanks for the compliments too! My age is 17.
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Title: Re: Forging bodkins Post by Bill Skinner on Dec 31st, 2016 at 10:58am
Outstanding job. And the number the "experts" say is 50, or you have to make 50 of something before you really know how to do it well. I haven't found that to be quite correct but the more you do something, the better you get. So, look on each point as a learning experience, and they are, and keep on hammering.
PS, Mauro needs to make 40 some odd more swords before he is a true swordsmith. Wen need to encourage everybody who is keeping some of the older skills alive to keep on doing it. So, Mauro, start on some more swords. ;D |
Title: Re: Forging bodkins Post by Mauro Fiorentini on Dec 31st, 2016 at 11:47am
;D
I actually forged more than 60 knives since I started blacksmithing and you know what? only 3 or 4 of them became reliable steel! All the other blades were badly hammered/heated/tempered soooo..... yes, blacksmithing definitely need a loooong apprenticeship!! And about swords, I still have a long way to go, I just made 5 or 6 and none of them by forging :) But am willing to buy a new forge, I can't go on with my grampa's one, it's like 60 to 80 years old, she needs to retire ;D Happy new year everybody!! |
Title: Re: Forging bodkins Post by SlingerDave on Dec 31st, 2016 at 5:49pm
Well I guess I have 44 more to make then... But I have run out of coal. And I second the request Mauro, make more awesome swords. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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