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Message started by curious_aardvark on Apr 19th, 2015 at 1:11pm

Title: International Competition Rules
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 19th, 2015 at 1:11pm
These are as simply as they can be and consist of target and distance.
For a competition to be an official part of the International federation Of Slingers. These simple rules need to be followed.

Target:
120cm square. With a central disc of 50 centimetres diameter.
The centre of the disc should be 160 cm above the ground.

Distances to compete over are: 10, 20 & 30 metres.
Points are awarded as follows:

10 & 20 metres: hitting the square is 1 point. Hitting the disc is 2 points.
Discretion is given to the referee on whether clipping the disc is 1 or 2 points.

For 30 Metres: Square scores 2 points and disc scores 4.

Ammunition is up to the organisers.
And all sling types and materials are allowed, as are any slinging styles.

Targets can be made of almost anything, just so long as the above criteria are met.

So for instance. You could hang a square of tarpaulin between two trees and cut a hole in the middle.
Anything from that on up to the threaded metal rod target ranges we made in wyoming (and are possibly still there) are viable.


The idea is to make this as accessible and open as possible while creating a coherent and consistent competition structure that can be used the world over.

These rules also need to be adhered to for any competition to qualify as Slinging.org sanctioned.

There will be approved indoor and outdoor ammo guides coming. These won't be compulsory - but preferred and safe recommendations.

If you want to submit an idea for ammo - it needs to be enviromentally friendly(ish). Must not richochet or shatter and should ideally be cheap to make from materials readily available the world over.   

A printable set of rules and  a score sheet are attached as an a4 pdf.
https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=balearic_Slinging_score_sheet.pdf (29 KB | 573 )

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Shakli on Jun 24th, 2020 at 3:40am
Can I get a confirmation on this:

"For 30 Metres: Square scores 2 points and disc scores 4"

Was told that points only double for disc score not square.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 24th, 2020 at 8:07am
lol - this was before I knew that the ibizans actually sling at 30 metres.
I don't think anyone else does. But can't say for sure.

So depends whether you want to adhere to Ibizan federation rules - which has the same points at 20m and 30 m.

Or whether we want to use our own scoring system.

I will point out that there has NEVER been a 30 metre contest at the international in mallorca.
Despite my constant harangueing of pep to hold one. 
So there is no international set precedent.

No reason we can't have our own scores for 30 metres.

hang on I'll do a poll :-)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 24th, 2020 at 8:09am
It's a poll :-)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by IronGoober on Jun 24th, 2020 at 1:17pm
C_A,

Can you add a radio button? I would like the option to vote for 4 points on the circle and 1 on the square. Otherwise, there is little differentiation between 20 and 30 m. The same hit sequence would effectively be the same score (of course misses hurt more at 30 m).

4 on the circle awards accuracy more than consistency, which is sort of the name of the game. One well placed strike on the noggin' and a few misses would be more effective than a couple of strikes on the body. 

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jun 24th, 2020 at 7:19pm
Do different distances get scored against each other?  For example would a slinger's score for 10 m every be put up against another slinger's 20 m score?

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:30am
different distances are Not usually scored against each other- 10 metres is for kids and women as individuals.Though if children or women are in a team they all throw at 20 metres.

Spanish, machismo - nuff said :-)

But in ibiza their regular weekly competitions are usually 5 shots at 20 metres and 5 shots at 30 and the combined score is taken for all 10 throws.
So in that case they are scored together.


try slinging at 30 metres - even hitting the quadro is bloody difficult.

And it does change the scores as most people will fail completely at 30 metres to hit anything.

I'll add your option but a 30 metre quadro is definitely worth 2 points :-)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by IronGoober on Jun 25th, 2020 at 11:18am

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:30am:
try slinging at 30 metres - even hitting the quadro is bloody difficult.

And it does change the scores as most people will fail completely at 30 metres to hit anything.

I'll add your option but a 30 metre quadro is definitely worth 2 points


I did recently and I agree. The difficulty change from 20m to 30m is greater than the transition from 10m to 20m. My success rate hitting any part of the target was very low.  But I'm going to stubbornly remain with my earlier statement, 4 points and 1 point!

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by IronGoober on Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:58pm

Morphy wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.



You are supposed to just make your own by hitting it there over and over :)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jun 25th, 2020 at 6:00pm

IronGoober wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:58pm:

Morphy wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.



You are supposed to just make your own by hitting it there over and over :)


In that case I hope you all brought some tents because we are going to be here awhile!

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 26th, 2020 at 8:38am
a smaller bullseye ?
hell no lol
I like hearing the clang too much :-)

An inner circle would need to be made of wood so you could tell the difference - but even then it would still give you sympathy 'clang'.

Only way to do it would be to have a hole in the centre with a bag behind to catch anything going through.


So how wide are we going to make the 'jaegoor spot' ?
('cos he's the only person I know who could hit it consistently - or by anything other than pure accident :whistle: )

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:05am

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 8:38am:
So how wide are we going to make the 'jaegoor spot' ?
('cos he's the only person I know who could hit it consistently - or by anything other than pure accident :whistle: )


Sounds like a good name to me. Jaegoor spot is probably better than Jaegoor Hole. For...so many reasons.

Well see I think you are underestimating our wonderful slinging community my good man. Several of our slingers I bet could hit a...hmm 9 inch hole with some regularity from 20 meters. 20 meters is a huge difference than 30 or 40 meters. After you practice at those distances it feels super close.


Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:11am
Not sure what all this "circle" talk is about.  I usually aim for the square. ;)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:12pm
You guys are able to aim!? I just chuck it and pray :D

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by IronGoober on Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:54pm
Lol. When I try that, God almost always answers my prayer. But the answer is usually "No."

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:56pm
I like how three good slingers in a row are all acting like they couldn’t hit a barn from the inside.

I got news for you gents, your videos have betrayed you!  ;D


Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:52pm

Morphy wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:56pm:
I like how three good slingers in a row are all acting like they couldn’t hit a barn from the inside.

I got news for you gents, your videos have betrayed you!  ;D

LOL!

We are a humble group.  :D

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:14pm
Behold! The power of editing! :D

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:11am
you could aim for jaegoors hole with his rusty balls :whistle:

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jun 29th, 2020 at 7:12pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:11am:
you could aim for jaegoors hole with his rusty balls :whistle:


I wrote three replies to this already each slightly more dirty than the one before. Finally I just erased them all and I am leaving this as a safety against coming back to post them some day when I am less than sober.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by IronGoober on Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:48pm

Morphy wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 7:12pm:

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:11am:
you could aim for jaegoors hole with his rusty balls :whistle:


I wrote three replies to this already each slightly more dirty than the one before. Finally I just erased them all and I am leaving this as a safety against coming back to post them some day when I am less than sober.

It's good to know that I am not the only one who does this....writes something and then reconsiders multiple times.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jun 30th, 2020 at 2:42pm
lol chickens ;-)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jun 30th, 2020 at 3:59pm
I still have an unopened packet of balloons on the kitchen table. I spent an age remembering to buy them and now I have them still haven't made Rusty Balls of my own. I picked up one of Jaegoor's at the International and, like an idiot, gave it back to him rather than nick it :D I need to go steal some sand from the local beach... I MEAN... Go to the local beach to have a fun time and not steal sand...

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jul 1st, 2020 at 7:39am
to be fair jaegoor would have given it to you anyway :-)
He's usually generous like that :-)

You have sandy beaches in finland ?

I just think: icebergs and snow lol

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jul 1st, 2020 at 8:09am
It's been hitting 30C over here recently. This is the thing, Finland has much colder winters than the UK but it also seems to have better quality summers.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Jauke on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 6:06am
You could also just fill it up with dried ground no?
dry the ground, filter it through a sieve and fill your balloons with it through a funnel.
Finland cant all be bedrock

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 4:25pm
That could work as well. It's been raining so much I haven't made any yet. I've been thinking of getting a small scale as well. Getting them consistent will be the important thing.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 6:11pm
consistent weight is easy.

Either weigh the sand.
or weigh the sand and then add water to the first balloon to increase weight before you add the wrapping balloons. That way you can adjust the weight but keep the same size rusty ball (I just love that phrase - is that wrong ? ).

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 6:48pm
Flour might also work.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 7:33am
yeah but sand flows much easier, is denser, is usually free or at least very cheap and doesn't make as much of a mess if the baloons burst :-)

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 8:45am

Curious Aardvark wrote on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 7:33am:
yeah but sand flows much easier, is denser, is usually free or at least very cheap and doesn't make as much of a mess if the baloons burst :-)


On the flip side if I get hungry while slinging my flour balloons I can make a cake from my ammo.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Jul 4th, 2020 at 10:52am
New challenge! Throw an egg up then use rusty balls of flour and sugar to make egg batter in mid air. Extra points for icing.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jul 4th, 2020 at 11:09am

Kick wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 10:52am:
New challenge! Throw an egg up then use rusty balls of flour and sugar to make egg batter in mid air. Extra points for icing.

;D

I think I'll pass on that one.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Mersa on Jul 4th, 2020 at 11:19am
Next minute Jaegoor uploads a video  ;D :o

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Morphy on Jul 4th, 2020 at 2:43pm

Mersa wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 11:19am:
Next minute Jaegoor uploads a video  ;D :o



“Speaking of sling cake making I just happened to...”

Yep that sounds about right.  ;D

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by SlingingBri on Sep 9th, 2020 at 1:30am
I'm going to google it, but just in case I can't find it, does anybody have the specs for the size of the square target, metal round middle, and height for the target? 

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Mersa on Sep 9th, 2020 at 2:42am
Go to page 1 of this thread  ;D

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by SlingingBri on Sep 9th, 2020 at 5:16am
Good grief, wow, I can't believe I missed that lol.  Thanks!

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kilisi on Nov 1st, 2020 at 6:44am
I like these rules, 10, 20, 30 metres and any sort of sling.

What do you class as a kid? Under 15? Under 13?

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by quentonium on Apr 4th, 2021 at 6:07am
Not sure if this was covered, but it's there a common or specific stone weight/size for competitions?

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Kick on Aug 5th, 2021 at 11:55am

quentonium wrote on Apr 4th, 2021 at 6:07am:
Not sure if this was covered, but it's there a common or specific stone weight/size for competitions?

Oh no-one answered this. Oops. There are no rules on size/weight of ammo, just ammo type. Tennis balls you use... well tennis balls. Stones, you can use ones provided at the competition but all the good ones get grabbed as soon as the crates are put down. Often you get left with mismatched and chipped ones. Makes for a good excuse if you aren't doing so hot... Some people bring their own ammo, rocks or clay. With lead, I don't know if there is a specific rule against it, but if there isn't a specific rule, there is an unspoken one.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Aug 6th, 2021 at 5:31am
Hmm interesting, never thought about lead in competition before.

My guess would be that there's just no point, 20 or 30 metres (mainly in ibiza) zero benefit from using lead.
And while I've never noticed any attempts at health and safety in the Balearic Islands, my guess it's possible that even they draw the line somewhere. :whistle:

Plus lead's expensive and stones are free (if illegal to remove from the beaches they are gathered from,).

But stone Weight's vary from pep Salinas at around 800gms all the way down to Marcos at around 80gm.

For the record Jaegoor likes 180gm stones.

And bless him if you ask nicely, Marcos will let you use his stones :-)

So, I hear you ask, what is the benefit of using heavier stones ?

Simply put you are less likely to overthrow.
Pep salinas throws in a fairly high slow arc, he pretty much only misses by throwing short.
I like really light ammo and pretty much miss by always overthrowing.

So there is a lot to be said for splitting the difference and going for a mid range heavish stone like Jaegoor does.

Title: Re: International Competition Rules
Post by Curious Aardvark on Aug 6th, 2021 at 5:49am
For the generic non-balearic rules, use some common sense
Don't use stones that will shatter into dangerously sharp shards.
Clay is a great alternative and can be made into any size and shape you like.

Although the edible ammo stone huevos invented really cool and highly recommended for a totally environmentally friendly ammo.

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