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Message started by LightSlinger on Mar 25th, 2013 at 7:56am

Title: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 25th, 2013 at 7:56am
 Alrighty...

 I wanted to point out something a little while ago about the Slinging as a Sport Board.  This particular Forum has been created in order to get Slinging recognized as a Legitimate Sport.  Many of us Artists have a narrow view of this, thinking only in terms of Accuracy Competitions or maybe Sling Golf.
 
 My own personal designs are a bit Grander.  I Think that Slinging has great potential to develop many different types of Sport Games.  Here is the first Submission along those lines.

  Introducing FUNDA BALL. (Or maybe Gladiator Ball, I can't decide.)

  It will be a Team Sport played on a grass field about 80 Meters long and 40 meters wide.  Each Team shall have 5-6 players to a side.  The Object is to score as many points as possible, before time runs out, by hitting upright Static Targets, Flat Area Targets (about 10 meters in diameter), and the Opposing team's General.  Each Team will have (at Least) two "Artillerymen" who stay in the back field and attempt to score hits on the Area Targets, two "Shooters" who attempt to hit the Upright Static Targets, and the General who has many jobs within the game.  
 
  Hits scored on the Area Targets will be worth 1 point.  Hits on the Large Upright Static Target will be 2 points and the small target above the large one will be worth 3 points. Hitting the General nets 10 Points...
 
  I am currently in the process of writing up the Rule Book for this one and would love someone to test this game out for me. (I can't myself because of a bum knee...)
 
  Anyway, here's a diagram of the Field and it's measurements.
 

Funda_Ball_Field_resize_001.JPG (36 KB | )

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Bill Skinner on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:16am
Can you aim at the other sides' players?  If you hit him, he's out for so long?  How about blocking a shot?  A tennis ball will smack you pretty hard, what type ammo were you going to use?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 25th, 2013 at 3:39pm
  At the moment the rules call for tennis balls, but I've been toying with the idea of using stress balls injected with a bit of silicone in the center.  Should be heavy enough to actually throw, but not injurious when hitting a player.  And yes, players are valid targets, but getting hit doesn't knock them out of the game unless its the sixth player (teams can have up to six players, minimum five). Also, points are only earned upon hitting the other teams "general"l.  The only reason to fire on other players would be to distract them from making points on targets.
   And yes, you can block shots as well (if you can), players are just restricted from stepping into the target zones.
I can't wait to try it out!  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by curious_aardvark on Mar 26th, 2013 at 7:36am
so it's sort of dodgeball with targets ?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 26th, 2013 at 7:44am
  Kind of...  Long Range, dodge ball with targets..  Currently, each player carries 5 balls onto the field with them except the General who can carry up to 10.  So, there will be 35-40 balls to a side.  

  So, Long Range, Chaotic, dodge ball with targets..  The idea is to be almost like a battle simulation.  The two Shooters in the front would represent frontline attackers who concentrate on individual or smaller targets on flat fast trajectories, while the Artillerymen rain down ammo in parabolic arcs onto the area targets.  Much like they would have rained lead onto large formations from range.  The General's function is wide ranging.  He can move in and out of the forward attacking area and the back field at will, carry more ammo than the other players, call for counts(each field is only supposed to have so many balls in it at a time.  Discourages hoarding ammo..)
and effect Line Changes (Moving Attackers to Artillery positions and vice versa).

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Bill Skinner on Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:55am
What about the balls that go off the field?  Are they out of play or can the general go get them?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by curious_aardvark on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:03pm
the biggest flaw I can see is: You need a minimum of 10 slingers.

I've only ever seen 10 slingers in one place at the same time and 9 of them were learning.

I think games that concentrate - initially - on a maximum of 4 slingers, but probably 2 if we're being realistic. Would stand a much better chance.

But I do admire your optimism LS :thumb:

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:22pm

Bill Skinner wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:55am:
What about the balls that go off the field?  Are they out of play or can the general go get them?


 They can be retrieved by any player.  The boundary lines indicate the "engagement zone". Shots can be made only by players within the engagement zone.  In fact, any players on the team not deployed on the field are also able to retrieve ammo and return it to the field, they just cannot enter the engagement zone.  They would also be restricted to their side of the field of course..  The only balls that cannot be retrieved are the ones that end up in target nets, or area targets.  Scores would be tallied at half time and the balls retrieved.  
 

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:27pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:03pm:
the biggest flaw I can see is:          You need a minimum of 10 slingers.
I've only ever seen 10 slingers in one place at the same time and 9 of them were learning.
  I think games that concentrate - initially - on a maximum of 4 slingers, but probably 2 if we're being realistic. Would stand a much better chance.
  But I do admire your optimism LS :thumb:

 
  LOL!  Don't I know it...  The idea for this came up quite awhile ago and it's been bouncing around in my head wreaking havoc for so long I just had to finally let it out!  I know we probably won't see this anytime soon, but, I figure you have to think big to do big things!  
  Maybe I'll start a league.. Hehehe.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Caldou on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:55pm

LightSlinger wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
Scores would be tallied at half time and the balls retrieved.  

And why not making it last as long as there are balls to play ?

The match stops when all of the 80 balls are in target ? That would be quite the long play game ;D

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 26th, 2013 at 8:55pm

Caldou wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:55pm:

LightSlinger wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
Scores would be tallied at half time and the balls retrieved.  

And why not making it last as long as there are balls to play ?

The match stops when all of the 80 balls are in target ? That would be quite the long play game ;D


That would be a super long game for the players!  I suspect that for this one you would need to be in pretty good shape to hang.  I mean, each teams field is 50 x 40 METERS.  Pretty big!  And think of how often you'll be bending over to pick up balls.. Man I get tired just thinking about it..  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Bill Skinner on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:13am
How about when all the balls leave the field?  When it goes off the field, it's out of play.  

You will need face protection, a tennis ball in the eye will cause a black eye.  (I told him not to try to throw like that. ;D, think he might listen next time?)

 

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 27th, 2013 at 12:51pm

Bill Skinner wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:13am:
How about when all the balls leave the field?  When it goes off the field, it's out of play.  

You will need face protection, a tennis ball in the eye will cause a black eye.  (I told him not to try to throw like that. ;D, think he might listen next time?)

 


The problem with waiting for the balls to be out of play is that the game would slow way down as the balls left the field.  

And yes, face shields and helmets required.  And Cups..

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Bill Skinner on Mar 29th, 2013 at 10:31am
Maybe we should have the same philosphy as the Choctaws' and Creeks when they play stickball, or Brits when they play rugby, if you get killed or injured while playing, it's treated the same as an injury or death in war.  It's a great honor to get killed while playing. ;D

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:42am
Maybe we should!  Man, "Gladiator Ball" is starting to sound better all the time!   ;D

  Seriously though, this game would not be for the faint of heart.  There may be many occassions where a player may have to block shots on targets with their bodies much like a goalie in soccer (or Football for my Non-American Artists out there).  Since there is no bodily contact to be made with your opponents, we shouldn't need padded armor or anything, but Helmets with faceshields would be absolutely neccessary and it might not be a bad idea to wear some kind of thin armor.  Kinda like the stuff that BMX racers wear?  Just to keep the bruising down a bit.


Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:12am
I, for one, would love to see this idea take off. I think it would be fun.  :)


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 1st, 2013 at 2:59am

Mick wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:12am:
I, for one, would love to see this idea take off. I think it would be fun.  :)


Mick


   I agree!  Wouldn't it be cool to see this on ESPN or Pay-Per-View?  I'd watch it for sure!

   But, we need a plan right?  So...
   
   #1.   Soon, I will be hosting a "Mini-Slingfest" in my town.  My hope is to increase our exposure quite a bit and maybe get a regular "Sling-Golf" Tourney started up at one of our local parks where they have the Disc-golf courses set up.  When people come out to the slingfest, I'll collect registrations and probably hold a drawing for some prize or other.  
   
   #2.   I've been considering going up to our Church's "Men's Retreat" next time they hold one and have a couple of competitions there as well.  Again, collect some Registrants.

   #3.   Maybe get a booth set up at the Renaissance Fair and do some classes, sell some slings, etc.  

     After doing stuff like this for long enough, I may give starting a Funda-Ball League a try.  I figure that I'll need at least 500 registrants in order to have a decent shot...  I think that even getting two teams to start with would be pretty good.  Advertise a little around town and see what people think about it!
   

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 1st, 2013 at 3:58am
It would be excellant to see it take off. I wish you the best of luck with your promoting of slinging. When I get better at slinging myself, I hope to start getting others interested in it here too. At the moment, I'm just encouraging my kids to try it out and hopefully get others their age interested. I'm happy to make them simple slings for their friends when it comes to that.


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 1st, 2013 at 6:49am
Yeah, that's where I've been at too!  I took the girls out to the park for some target practice the other day and ended up giving slinging lessons to about 7 kids from 6 years old to a 12 year old.  Drew a bit of a crowd too.  Wish I'd been better prepared at that time!  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 1st, 2013 at 6:52am
Mental note to self, carry some simple slings as give aways for the neighbourhood kids, and one or two for the big kids...


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:11pm
Well, I not infrequently play extreme long range dodge- the UFOwith friends. It ranges from blunt-foam pointed arrows, to slings with tennis balls and or water baloons.
I would love to see this happen.
I think the Aussie sling would be amazing for this particular target-thing.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Bill Skinner on Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:23pm
OK, I'm calling my team, 'Squirrel and Dan as Shooters, they're young and can run around a lot, me and RatMan as the Arty guys, cause we're old and we aint gonna run if we can help it, and Masi as the General.  Sorry Mas, but somebody has to supply the brains...plus you're young enough to run around if needed.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 1st, 2013 at 8:46pm

Bill Skinner wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:23pm:
OK, I'm calling my team, 'Squirrel and Dan as Shooters, they're young and can run around a lot, me and RatMan as the Arty guys, cause we're old and we aint gonna run if we can help it, and Masi as the General.  Sorry Mas, but somebody has to supply the brains...plus you're young enough to run around if needed.

Thanks for that compliment. I am working on my accuracy... I can hit a car-sized target from 25 yards 90% of the time, and at 50 yards aound 50% of the time:D
I think you guys know what my target is:o
hahhaa Its actually a large foam panel...

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 1st, 2013 at 10:18pm
Man, I'm getting flashbacks.  Nothing like being picked last for teams..

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 1st, 2013 at 11:36pm
Me 'n' you LS. We'll show these pansies what wild fire is all about huh  ;D


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 12:12am
You know it mate..  I think you just named our team!  The Wildfire!  Love it!

Moreover, Bill made a terrible mistake...

We choose Curious_Aardvark, David Morningstar and Camo_Sling!

You guys are sooooo hosed...  Age and Experience win the game boys..  Age and Experience..

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 3:51pm

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 12:12am:
You know it mate..  I think you just named our team!  The Wildfire!  Love it!

Moreover, Bill made a terrible mistake...

We choose Curious_Aardvark, David Morningstar and Camo_Sling!

You guys are sooooo hosed...  Age and Experience win the game boys..  Age and Experience..

Age+experiance do not help if you cant move... Arthritis don't either...
LOL..
How bout this- Bill's team VS yours?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Caldou on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 5:18pm
Ok, so I will recruit for "old world" team...

With Jurek, Teg, Jlasud and Mauro, I don't think it would be boring...

On the "protection" side, could the "shields" used in this video (or some of the same kind) be used by the shooters ? It's foam, the size of your forearm and quite light and could be used to deflect shots.
the helmets they use make it not so easy to breath in after a while, otherwise it would have been ok (it's designed to stop heavy blows with padded weapons, usually, it works, you can barely feel the core until it's half inside your brain... or maybe I was practicising with brutes...)

Can we play in disguises ? I wanna be able to play this "trollball style" ;D (one on this video is wearing some great helmet ^^ ) or with re-enactment dressing  8-)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 5:28pm
 I have been thinking about shields for the shooters actually!  Now that someone else mentions it, maybe it's a better idea than I initially thought..

 I would leave it to the league to decide what appropriate uniforms would be, but if we want this recognized as a "legitimate" sport, uniforms that are more "sporty" and less "renaissance" might be better...  I think people would just see a bunch of kooks if we dressed like shephards or centurions.  But loose shorts with cargo pockets and jerseys might be seen as a new fangled (and exciting) sport!

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 6:06pm

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 5:28pm:
 I have been thinking about shields for the shooters actually!  Now that someone else mentions it, maybe it's a better idea than I initially thought..

 I would leave it to the league to decide what appropriate uniforms would be, but if we want this recognized as a "legitimate" sport, uniforms that are more "sporty" and less "renaissance" might be better...  I think people would just see a bunch of kooks if we dressed like shephards or centurions.  But loose shorts with cargo pockets and jerseys might be seen as a new fangled (and exciting) sport!

Well... I have some light 1/2 inch marine plywood shields I made that can easily stop a tennis ball. they are light, fast, and not too big. I can easily sling with one on, I do it all the time during snowball fights...
I also have a big @$$ 1 1/2 inch plywood shield that weighs nearly 50 pounds :o :o
My friends whale on it with hammers and I do not feel a thing.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 6:26pm
The shields I imagined for the shooters would be maybe a bit bigger than a "buckler" shield.  About 50 cm in diameter (ironically the same size as a Diana!).

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 7:01pm

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 6:26pm:
The shields I imagined for the shooters would be maybe a bit bigger than a "buckler" shield.  About 50 cm in diameter (ironically the same size as a Diana!).

Mine are more of a traditional saxon/britan shield shape.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 7:52pm
I've used a Buckler when I was practising a European style of martial art fencing. They are very effective, but being held by one hand it would not be so good for a sling game. A modified style that could be strapped to the forearm would be much better and with missiles in the form of tennis balls flying around, I would expect a shield to be appropriate. A more sport type padded looking shield might be less detracting from the sporting connotations that LS is envisioning. If it looked too martial it might be off putting to some potential players.
Just my own thoughts on it. I wouldn't care if I had a round shield slung across my back and dressed like a Viking Berserker  ;D


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 8:31pm
Yeah man, that's what I thought a buckler was..  A very small shield that strapped or buckled to your off-hand forearm.  It would be very difficult if you had to hold it with your hand! Lol.   Ideally, I would outfit my team with plexiglass shields.  Wouldn't block your vision, super lightweight, and tough!  Also, you're totally right!  Shields like that would look very sporty and not so reminiscent of combat.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:38am

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 12:12am:
You know it mate..  I think you just named our team!  The Wildfire!  Love it!

Moreover, Bill made a terrible mistake...

We choose Curious_Aardvark, David Morningstar and Camo_Sling!

You guys are sooooo hosed...  Age and Experience win the game boys..  Age and Experience..


not to mention power and viciousness (me anyway :-) )
Even as a kid throwing tennis balls I would always aim for the head or groin :whistle:

These big round vertial targets - they've got nets in to catch the balls ?
Otherwose it'd could hard to tell if you got one through.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Dilyan Ganev on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 3:14pm
Ok...How do you imagine to strap the shield to the off-hand? Close to the wrist or to the elbow?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 4:55pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:38am:

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 12:12am:
You know it mate..  I think you just named our team!  The Wildfire!  Love it!

Moreover, Bill made a terrible mistake...

We choose Curious_Aardvark, David Morningstar and Camo_Sling!

You guys are sooooo hosed...  Age and Experience win the game boys..  Age and Experience..


not to mention power and viciousness (me anyway :-) )
Even as a kid throwing tennis balls I would always aim for the head or groin :whistle:

These big round vertial targets - they've got nets in to catch the balls ?
Otherwose it'd could hard to tell if you got one through.  


Lol.  All the more reason to wear face shields and cups!!  And yes each upright target should be equipped with nets.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 4:58pm

Dilyan Ganev wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 3:14pm:
Ok...How do you imagine to strap the shield to the off-hand? Close to the wrist or to the elbow?


Well, I would say its player preference, but personally, I think they would be more effective closer to the wrist since they would be more mobile there.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Caldou on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 5:53pm
With the one I linked earlier, you have a strap around the forearm and another in the palm of your hand, but it doesn't keep you from grabbing your ammo or sling pouch.

Plus, as LS said, you are more mobile from the hand than from the elbow ^^

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:56pm
I would double strap a shield, and with a smallish buckler type shield, that's going to be low on the forearm anyway. the second strap  near the hand could be a bit looser to allow more freedom to use that hand. It could be a grab loop rather than a firm strap. Since these things would have to be made specially for this game, I would be inclined to add a padded ratcheting clamp similar to a generic mobile 'phone holder in a car, as well as two straps. This would make the shield more stable in event of a solid hit. Straps might tend to allow a twisting motion. The 'clamp' between them gripping the arm would act a little like a splint to prevent that. It might also act like a safety hazard though, so more thought as to it's necessity might be required.
Also, there is no reason why the shield needs to extend past the knuckles. if your fingers and thumb are free to move past the rim of the shield, then the player is able to reach down to pick up a ball with out the shield being jambed up the arm, or being a hinderance.


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Arcane Tinker on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:39pm
Lightslinger...have you been watching the Fantastic Mr. Fox?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTHll8hULao

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:33pm

Arcane Tinker wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
Lightslinger...have you been watching the Fantastic Mr. Fox?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTHll8hULao


Never seen it actually.  Does Funda ball remind you of whackbat?  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Arcane Tinker on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:43pm
It does indeed. Can we have flaming pinecones and divide by nine?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 8th, 2013 at 2:03am

Arcane Tinker wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:43pm:
It does indeed. Can we have flaming pinecones and divide by nine?


Sure.  I guess we just have to add "Flame Retardant" to the Uniform Requirements... And only if I can bring a calculator..

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 8th, 2013 at 7:23am
Okay, so I think an update is in order..

  I have been, in between all the witty banter, typing up the rules for Funda Ball.  I will probably be able to post the Preliminary Rule Set within the next couple of days.  So, stay tuned and I'll put on my armor for the inevitible barrage of opinion!   ;D

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 8th, 2013 at 8:31am
Look forward to reading them mate.


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 8th, 2013 at 12:11pm
and don't forget to include a version for no more than 4 players.

It's possible that you could get 4 slingers in one place at the same time.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:14pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 8th, 2013 at 12:11pm:
and don't forget to include a version for no more than 4 players.

It's possible that you could get 4 slingers in one place at the same time.

Slinger's Guide, my friend:)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:38pm

squirrelslinger wrote on Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:14pm:

Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 8th, 2013 at 12:11pm:
and don't forget to include a version for no more than 4 players.

It's possible that you could get 4 slingers in one place at the same time.

Slinger's Guide, my friend:)


That's a cool idea, but even I'm not so optomistic that I think it's ready for that!  Nobodies even played it yet!!  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 9th, 2013 at 3:25pm
Hm... I sense a slinger gathering this summer in Kentucky....:P

Title: The Rule Book
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 11th, 2013 at 7:52am
Alrighty!  At long last here is the (nearly) completed Rule set for Funda Ball.  Read at your own risk!

OVERVIEW
              Funda Ball is a competitive 2 team sport played with Slings and Funda balls.

OBJECTIVE
     To score more points than the opposition team before time runs out by hitting special ground area targets, static targets and/or opposing players with the Funda balls.

EQUIPMENT NEEDED
      Safety Equipment
Each player will need to be equipped with a helmet that covers the top of the head (Preferably with a face shield), and a cup (if male).  Additionally, each player except the General, will be outfitted with a small circular shield strapped to their forearm.

Attack Equipment
      Each player on the field will require two slings of varying lengths.  Following is the requirements for the different slings.  Measurements are made from the base of the retaining finger loop to mid-pouch.  If no finger loop or toggle is used, measure starting from 4” from the end of the retention cord.

     The Artillery Sling
The Artillery Sling will be no shorter than 24” and not longer than 36” in length.  

     The Shooting Sling
The Shooting Sling will be no shorter than 16” and no longer than 21” in length.

              Ammunition
Each Shooter and Artilleryman will carry up to 5 funda balls onto the field and during play.  The General may carry up to 15.  Maximum number of balls on each side of the field will be 40.  
Funda Balls are made up of a spongy material and are injected with silicone to add weight.  Each Funda Ball should measure 20cm (or 2.5”) in diameter at the widest point and be no longer than 28cm (or 3.5”) long.
         
               Targets
               There are two types of Static Scoring Targets on the field.  Following is their descriptions:

               Upright Static Targets
               Each Team will have on their side of the field two static, upright targets.  These targets shall consist of a circular netted hoop 1 meter (or 3.2 ft) in diameter, atop a second circular netted hoop that is 2 meters (or 6.5ft) in diameter, atop a sturdy pole measuring 1 meter from the ground to the bottom target.

              Area Targets      Area Targets are two circular targets that lay flat on the ground and are 5 meters (or 16.5 ft) in diameter.  Area targets may be defined by chalk lines, paint, or rope.
     The General
                The other Scoring Target is the opposing Team’s General.

TEAMS

     Teams should consist of 5-6 players (in the field) and a maximum of 10 players total.

     General
     Each Team will have only one General on the field at any time, but may have two on the team.  Each General should wear an Insignia on his/her Uniform that indicates that he/she is a General.

     Soldiers
     Soldiers are the other Non-General players on the team.  They will be the Shooters and Artillerymen.  Each team is allowed up to 9 Soldiers (or 8 if the team has two Generals)
     
FIELD DIMENSIONS
     Refer to the picture below for Basic Field Measurements:


Clarifying Measurements:

     Upright Static Targets
     The upright Static Targets (or UST’s) shall be at least 10 meters in from the Outer Boundry Line, and must be at least 5 Meters away from the other UST.  UST’s are always placed onto the Firing Lines.
     
               Area Targets      Area Targets are always 10 meters in from the Outer Boundary Lines and 5 meters in from the Rear Boundary Line.

FIELD ZONE DESCRIPTIONS AND BASIC RULES
       Skirmish Line
     The Skirmish Line divides the playing field width-wise in half and is 30.5 cm
(or 1ft) wide.  Players may not step on or over this line at any time.  For the purposes of ammunition reclamation the Skirmish line also divides No Man’s Land (See below).  Any player who steps on or over the Skirmish Line during play is guilty of a an off-sides foul.  An Off-Sides Foul allows either of the team’s shooters or the Team’s General an un-interrupted shot at a UST.  (See Penalty Section for details on how to resolve.)

Forward Engagement Zone
     There are two Engagement Zones in which balls can be thrown by the players.  The first is the Forward Engagement Zone (FEZ).  It is split width-wise in the middle by the Skirmish Line making two 10 meter long by 40 meter wide areas on either side of the field.  The FEZ can be occupied by a maximum of two Shooters and the team’s General, and neither Shooter may leave this zone unless it is also occupied by the General.  Additionally, Artillerymen may not enter this zone unless it is occupied by the General.  The Upright Static Targets will be placed on the rear line of the FEZ.  

     Rear Engagement Zone
     The two Rear Engagement Zones are 30 meters long and 40 meters wide.  They contain two Area Targets (See Targets above) each and are where the Artillerymen and General spend most of their time during the Match.  

     No Man’s Land
     No Man’s Land is the area of the field outside of the Engagement Zones.  Generally, it is where the rest of the team resides and where players must often go in order to collect ammunition that leaves the Engagement Zones.  While in this area, players may not have any ammunition loaded into either Sling.


GAMEPLAY

Matches and Time

     A Funda Ball Match will be broken into two 30 minute long Games with a 6 minute rest period in between.  Each Game is broken down into two 12 minute Sets with one 6 minute rest period after the first Set.  After the first Game, teams switch sides.

Scoring
     Scores are tallied four times during the Match by the Referees; once after the first set, once after the second set, once after the third, and finally once after the Match is over.  Scores are only tallied at these times (with one exception, see below).

     Scores are Tallied for the following:
•      Any Balls found in the Large UST nets will be counted as one point.
•      Any Balls found in the Small UST nets will be counted as two points.
•      Any Balls that are found inside, and not touching the area target line, are counted as one point.
•      Any direct hits on the General are scored immediately and the game is stopped briefly by the referees.  Direct hits are defined as any time a ball makes contact with the General before coming into contact with anything else; For example the ground, targets, other players, etc.  Direct Hits scored on the General are worth 5 points.

Slinging Techniques Allowed
     Shooters using Artillery Slings may use only single rotation or partial rotation techniques while in the Forward Engagement Zone.  This is to minimize the potential for injury.  Acceptable Techniques are: Apache, Greek Side Arm, Greek Underarm, etc.
     Shooters using a Shooter Sling may use any technique they wish with the exception of pirouette techniques.      

     Artillerymen may use any Technique they wish except for the pirohuette.

Blocking Shots      
     Any player may use any part of his/her body or equipment to block shots from opposing players.  However, these blocks must be done from outside of the target zones, and a player may not ever enter an area target.  

Time Outs and Changes
    Any player on the team can call for a Time Out.  Each Team will have 3 Time Outs only per Match.  When a Time Out is called, the Referee will blow two blasts on the whistle and all play stops for the period of the time out.  A Time Out will last for a maximum of two minutes.  During the Time Out any field changes may be made without the General’s intervention, with any number of players.  (See Positions and Changes below)

Positions and Changes
     Shooters are positioned in the forward engagement zone and cannot leave until relieved by another player or during a Time Out.  To be relieved during game play, the General must enter, with at least one foot, into the forward engagement zone for the duration of the switch or Relief.  Once the relieved shooter leaves the Forward engagement zone he must be immediately replaced by one of the artillerymen or a player from the sidelines.
           Artillerymen may move in and out of No Man’s land at will, but may not enter the FEZ unless it is occupied by the general as mentioned above.  Artillerymen can also be relieved by any other player in No Man’s Land.  To effect this relief, the artilleryman leaves the engagement zone.  When both his feet are in No Man’s Land, the relieving player may enter the Engagement zone.


Penalties
     Skirmish Line Foul
     This is when a Player steps on or over the Skirmish Line.  A referee will blow the whistle once for this infraction and a penalty shot awarded.  Play will be suspended until the penalty shot is resolved.  At that time the General will choose either one of the shooters currently in the FEZ or him/herself to make the Penalty Shot.  

     Gross Power Foul
     A Gross Power Foul is an infraction where a player with an artillery sling uses a power technique while in the FEZ.  Referees will blow the whistle once and grant Two Penalty Shots for this infraction.

     Whipping
     Whipping is an infraction where a player intentionally or un-intentionally contacts an opposing player with any part of his/her sling.  Referees will blow the whistle once, choice of two penalty shots granted, and the offending player warned.  A second infraction by the same player will result in that player’s suspension from the Match, and two more penalty shots.  

     Off-Sides
     In the case where a player improperly leaves an engagement zone, a single whistle will be blown and a penalty shot awarded.  Improperly leaving an engagement zone means stepping into an area target, crossing into or out of the FEZ without relief, or entering any engagement zone from No Man’s land when the maximum number of players are already deployed.

             Hoarding
             [edit]Full Ruleset is forthcoming[/edit]

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:28am
Some questions and clarifications:

What weight will be standard for the 'Funda Ball'?

Upright static targets are upright like a basketball hoop =, or upright like the Aztec hoop game O?

Skirmish line description seems to have a typo with regard to it's width, clarification on that one thanks.


That's all I got for now. Way past my bedtime.


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:25pm

Mick wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:28am:
Some questions and clarifications:
What weight will be standard for the 'Funda Ball'?
Upright static targets are upright like a basketball hoop =, or upright like the Aztec hoop game O?
Skirmish line description seems to have a typo with regard to it's width, clarification on that one thanks.

That's all I got for now. Way past my bedtime.

Mick


  I'm not sure what the standard weight should be really.  I think it depends a bit on what kind of projectile we settle on.  For now, and testing purposes, we'll stick with tennis balls.  But I hope we can find slightly heavier projectiles that are softer.  
  The upright static targets may be easier to think of like this.  Imagine a pole with a hula-hoop fixed to the top of it, facing (at first anyway) the opposing players.  
  The skirmish line should be about a foot wide.  I'll fix that here shortly, lol.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:45pm
Thanks. I reckon I knew what you meant, but just need to check anyway. Wouldn't be the first time I thought wrong  ;)


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 13th, 2013 at 2:40am
I see a potential issue in the section 'Blocking Shots'. The General is worth 5 points for a direct hit and if s/he were to also have the ability to block shots then this might cause issue in some circumstances where a direct hit is scored, but the General may argue that a block was made.

Scoring and ball in play clarification: Is a ball out of play for the set once it has passed/landed through/into an UST/ATZ?

Can Artillary shoot at any target? Can shooters do the same? Is it possible the UST's may be an easy target for the shooters, and if so perhaps making the rings a little smaller? Not being able to make a visual to scale target area due to it being wet for the last week and not looking like changing anytime soon, it's a bit hard for me to test the theory myself. It's more the lower and larger of the UST's that I feel may be too easy a shot for the shooters.

More study and questions to come probably, but that will do for now.


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 13th, 2013 at 2:57am

Mick wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 2:40am:
I see a potential issue in the section 'Blocking Shots'. The General is worth 5 points for a direct hit and if s/he were to also have the ability to block shots then this might cause issue in some circumstances where a direct hit is scored, but the General may argue that a block was made.

Scoring and ball in play clarification: Is a ball out of play for the set once it has passed/landed through/into an UST/ATZ?

Can Artillary shoot at any target? Can shooters do the same? Is it possible the UST's may be an easy target for the shooters, and if so perhaps making the rings a little smaller? Not being able to make a visual to scale target area due to it being wet for the last week and not looking like changing anytime soon, it's a bit hard for me to test the theory myself. It's more the lower and larger of the UST's that I feel may be too easy a shot for the shooters.

More study and questions to come probably, but that will do for now.

Mick


Excellent questions!  
Generals cannot block shots.  Need to clarify this of course.  Good catch!
Balls in area targets and UST's are indeed out of play.  
And yes.  Any target is valid for any player, including the general... [edit]However, after a bit of ground target practice last night with "Ramses" at a range equal to what the FEZ players would be at, I see the merit in the possibility of a smaller target.  Perhaps we could put a target within the larger one that is about 25% the size of the large ones.  Kind of like a bulls eye. we could say that only shots ending up in the smaller target are valid for the FEZ players.[/edit]

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Revolutionary on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:22pm
if only we could find a way to bring the player requirements down, i have a couple of friends that need some schooling in the art of slinging............. ::)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:57pm
How so? You mean skill levels?!...Nah! We all need to improve those. And at least you have a couple of friends that are close and handy to practice with! My nearest mate is just over two hours drive away!


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 17th, 2013 at 12:37am
I think that Revolutionary is referring to the number of players required.  It is pretty heavy on required number of players!

   Just to get an idea, I was talking to Caldou yesterday evening (morning for him) and we were talking about the numbr of players and referee's that would be required for a fully populated game.  It's up to 27 bodies total.  This would be;  5-6 players on each side of the field in the engagement zones, 4-5 players in No Man's Land on either side, and at least 5 Referees!  
 
   Initially, when I was dreaming up this game I thought we could get away with just 10 players and maybe 3 refs, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that additional players would be needed.  The "extra" players in no man's land serve a vital function even though they are not "playing".  They wouldn't be sitting on the sidelines like in many other sports.  These guys would be constantly retrieving ammunition for their team and being constantly at the ready to relieve players in the engagement zones.  
   
   Now, you could kind of "fake it to make it" by simply recruiting bystanders to collect ammo for the teams, but then you would still be left without any relief players.  I think that would be kind of important because with the sheer amount of ammunition on the field, players will be constantly running to and picking up balls in the engagement zones, making shots, blocking shots, and dodging shots.  Lots and lots of movement involved here.  Especially for the General.  The idea of allowing for relief players would (theoretically) keep the game very dynamic, fast, and tense.

   Additionally, because of the fact that a General can call for a count of how many balls are in either engagement zone, this should create a kind of yin-yang situation between the teams.  If one team is making shots feverishly, the other team must also return fire at the same pace to avoid being guilty of a "Hoarding" penalty.  (Hoarding hasn't been written in to the rules yet.)  So relief players will be a must...

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 17th, 2013 at 2:04am
Well we gotta get these final details sorted in the rule book mate  :). There're some rules, like Generals calling for a ball count, that I hadn't seen 'til now.   :D


Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 17th, 2013 at 3:00am

Mick wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 2:04am:
Well we gotta get these final details sorted in the rule book mate  :). There're some rules, like Generals calling for a ball count, that I hadn't seen 'til now.   :D


Mick



agreed.  

  I ran out of room on the post where I put the bulk of the rules.  I wish there was a way to attach a word document on the board, but there isn't.  I can attach a .txt file but that would have no pretty formatting at all.  I may have to post in on my personal Sport Slinging website and then link to it.  I could also start a new thread I suppose and just make two simultaneous posts that have ALL the rules.  Maybe I'll do that.  

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by MickR on Apr 17th, 2013 at 5:08am
Well, if you don't mind the extra typing, that'd be good, or if you couldn't be bothered, and are only doing it because I asked, you can email it to me to read and try and spot any possible bugs.
:)

Mick

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by squirrelslinger on Apr 17th, 2013 at 3:52pm

LightSlinger wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 3:00am:

Mick wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 2:04am:
Well we gotta get these final details sorted in the rule book mate  :). There're some rules, like Generals calling for a ball count, that I hadn't seen 'til now.   :D


Mick



agreed.  

  I ran out of room on the post where I put the bulk of the rules.  I wish there was a way to attach a word document on the board, but there isn't.  I can attach a .txt file but that would have no pretty formatting at all.  I may have to post in on my personal Sport Slinging website and then link to it.  I could also start a new thread I suppose and just make two simultaneous posts that have ALL the rules.  Maybe I'll do that.  

Convert it to HTML... I can do that using Dreamweaver if you want me to. Then host it on a website.
I can also do that.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Revolutionary on Apr 18th, 2013 at 8:53pm
we should totally make another slinging game that's like dodgeball but with slings ;D i know it has its own thread, but i felt that it should be mentioned here ;)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by slingmoore on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:07am
I like the direction this is going.  But... Man I want a game with a little more fire... with no more gear required than a sling a few balls and some ground to play on.  The sling is simple, the sport should be too, just make it like dodgeball and sling until everyone gets out.   Too many targets and rules and it'll never catch on.  Think of Ultimate frisbee... the genius of that game is that there's nothing to it but effort and skill.  A sling sport should be the same...  just a bunch of slingers who love slinging and don't mind getting popped because they get to pop people, and the only people getting any real popping done are the ones who have put some effort into their skill level and have been slinging for a while.  But it stills leaves rooms for beginners and people walking by that have never seen a sling.  Plus playing till everyone is out will make the games fast like speed chess and we'll basically more slinging in less time.  I mean we could play the game I'm describing here...right now... if we weren't all separated by hundreds of miles.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 21st, 2013 at 2:05am
I disagree.  I think that Funda Ball will catch on.. Eventually...  One day I shall look down from Heaven and say, "HA!" while I watch the NFBL!  LOL..

What you're talking about is a Sling version of Dodgeball.  Also sounds like tons of fun!  


Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by celron on May 21st, 2013 at 4:38pm

slingmoore wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:07am:
I like the direction this is going.  But... Man I want a game with a little more fire... with no more gear required than a sling a few balls and some ground to play on.  The sling is simple, the sport should be too, just make it like dodgeball and sling until everyone gets out.   Too many targets and rules and it'll never catch on.  Think of Ultimate frisbee... the genius of that game is that there's nothing to it but effort and skill.  A sling sport should be the same...  just a bunch of slingers who love slinging and don't mind getting popped because they get to pop people, and the only people getting any real popping done are the ones who have put some effort into their skill level and have been slinging for a while.  But it stills leaves rooms for beginners and people walking by that have never seen a sling.  Plus playing till everyone is out will make the games fast like speed chess and we'll basically more slinging in less time.  I mean we could play the game I'm describing here...right now... if we weren't all separated by hundreds of miles.


I agree to a point. You can't conceivably have an eye knocked out of its socket or become concussed in a dodgeball game, which is why they can get away with jock shorts and tanktops. Safety should be held to a very high standard in any game involving slings. Cups mandatory (male and female, I wouldn't wish a groin hit from a sling on anyone), some form of joint protection, head protection, the whole nine.

There are multiple avenues for this game to develop, and as with any sport you can have different leagues playing slightly different versions of the core game: full contact, points-based, target-based, king of the hill, elimination, ricochets-count, etc. etc.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 7:24am
I have noticed this thread hasn't  bee  active in a while,  I was curious  if any update  was around?
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by HuntsmanSling on Feb 24th, 2015 at 1:34pm
I have dozens of slings so I get a few friends together and we all go to the tennis court and play dodgeball in the caged tennis court. Loads of fun, especially since we don't have to go far to retrieve the balls

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 11th, 2015 at 11:23pm
Dodgeball would be a great idea because everyone knows how to play (generally) that way it would be a good way to start getting slinging popular. just take the base idea of dodgeball, i.e balls in the middle, although one problem would be the power, have you guys heard of archery tag? it gives a 20ft break between each side, i think that might be a good idea, then have each team have a line of balls were only they can grab them, and by the way no one can go in the 20ft area, and then just no standardized style, just standardized ammo.  :)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 11th, 2015 at 11:33pm
also what i'm thinking of for ammo is at home depot, they have this three inch thick foam, its made for padding under carpets but its very soft and pretty hefty so i think that it might work for some small foam balls for slingball, that might be a cool name for dodgeball and slings combined.  ;D

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 5:43am
I have been on the lookout  to try different suitable ammo,  I haven't  been able to find one in stores unfortunately, but I would like to the MINI nerf footballs  with the tails (nerf pocket vortex). I might have  to buy em online.  Those in my mind should give the same flight as the " kresto "also there are professional  paintball  team jerseys that have pads in them and such, not much but enough, and helmets, I was llooking  at  hockey  helmets  with  full  face  visors  would do the trick.
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:42am
the nerf footballs your talking about work very well.  :)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 12:54pm
I haven't  had  an opportunity  to use them, but I personally  think that  it would  be the best ammo for this game. What is your experience with  the nerf  footballs?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 7:27pm
i had a friend that had one at his house during last summer so every time i was there we would do sling catch, and it doesn't fly super fast so it wont hurt to badly, and you can dodge it.  :)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 7:50pm
It seems like that would  be  the perfect  ammo for the game  then. Could  even put a logo on it as well. If the game is played  with all rules, and regulations  I think it would  be a decently paced game, expecially  if there are like 20 of those nerf footballs  flying  around. Personally  I think they would  have the same flight as the " kresto ".
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:21pm
yeah, i'll probably go pick up a few of those, depending on the price.  :)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 11:30pm
Usually  they range from like $2-$5, in stores, and $8; online.  I just  haven't  found  any yet.  But Iwill rreport  when i do. I hhave  a few volunteers that willhelp me out do some  test  when  I get em.
Ryan


Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 12th, 2015 at 11:39pm
Ok, cool tell me once you test it.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 13th, 2015 at 4:57am
Ok,I will give a report  once done.
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by TobyC on Mar 13th, 2015 at 7:08pm
at oriental trading they sell mini footballs for $15 per dozen

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:50am
I don't have oneof tthosestores close to me, but wwould  they b the ones with the tails? I am referring  to the nerf footballs  with tails. I believe  they might have better  flight paths, but that's what Iwant to find out.
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 20th, 2015 at 9:51pm
     I tried a couple of those mini footballs before and don't find them to be that great honestly.  Now, I don't know if it was just the type of sling, pouch, or the balls, but they didn't fly well at all.  Perhaps if I had made a sling specifically for them they would work better.

     When I was working on Fundaball with fervor, I thought these would be ideal, being biconical and all, but I still find myself sticking to the old standby.  Tennis Balls..

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 20th, 2015 at 10:42pm
We're you using  the mini nerf footballs? The ones with the tails. That might have made the biggest  difference  in  the  world.  Since  those are in the same category  as  the "cresto". Also have  you done any more  work on this? I was curious  I have been researching  alot of information,  and can be of help.
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 11:49pm
Regrettably, I haven't done much with this lately.  I haven't been able to get in much slinging at all really.  Things will pick up eventually I'm sure, but in the meantime, there's just not much in the way of opportunity.
 
However, If you have some ideas and time to work on the Funda ball project, don't let me stop ya!  I'd love to see em!  I don't really consider this to be MY project exactly.  I posted the first section of the rules in the same spirit that other slingers post tutorials of their sling designs.  So that other slingers can enjoy them!   ;)

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 24th, 2015 at 11:32am
Well hopefully  we can see this eventually  get up and  running.  I believe  it would  be a great  hit. I know a few people  who I got iinterested  in  slinging, they were interested  in this as well, when I mentioned  it casually.  I was looking  at safety  gear, and helmets. The helmets  are for hockey, and the jersey  and pants are from  paintball, have  alot of built in padding for safety.  The last one is the  nerf football  I was referring  to.  It has the tail,  I believe that it would  be the best , Istill have to find them and rrun  some tests. All the pics are suggestions, there are tons  of designs  to chose  from and such.
Ryan
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Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 28th, 2015 at 10:24pm
Yep, that stuff is pretty much what I had in mind as well.  Still not sure about the nerf football, but we definately need something similar.  With all the protective gear, we should be okay with tennis balls for most testing in the interim.  Being struck with a ball should be at least a little unpleasant to encourage different tactics and strategies.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Mar 29th, 2015 at 10:09am
I've actually tried to use a nerf football thingy on a couple of occasions.  It didn't work too great in my opinion.  When I slung it I was able to get a spiral, but it also flew in a corkscrew pattern that made accuracy unlikely at best.  I hypothesize that this happened for a couple of reasons:
#1.   I have a feeling that throwing it with even a moderate amount of force caused the soft thing to flatten or distort a bit.
#2.    I think that throwing it from the sling also put a huge amount of spin on it (much more than throwing it by hand) which may have given the, now lopsided, ball some strange flight characteristics.

Finding the right kind of ammo is a stumper for sure...

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 29th, 2015 at 11:16am
a friend of mine found a great ammo for safe slinging, the problem is, is that they curve, a lot its pretty controllable, but its hard to get used to. here's a picture of what it is. i have a few of them, they are the foam balls that they used to give to you when you went to sports clips, they don't hurt at all and are pretty fun to use, note that these aren't the ones that you find at the dollar store, they don't soak up water.
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Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 29th, 2015 at 4:48pm
Now what about  racquet  balls ? They are a little  smaller, solid, and heavier, then the ttennis  balls. Now  the other day I picked up ppractice  golf balls, they are regular  size, yellow dimpled and foam. I got em from  Walmart,  I have yet to have  the opportunity  to try em.
Ryan

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 29th, 2015 at 6:14pm
Racket balls are to hard and will probably hurt, the foam golf balls work but they just don't have enough weight to go anywhere. I've tryed a lot of stuff.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 29th, 2015 at 9:02pm
Hmmmm. Well gonna  have  to keep at it, we gotta find ssomething.  I think the issue  is finding  something  with  the correct  range we need.  I believe  that Size of the field  is too big then.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 29th, 2015 at 10:39pm
Yeah, what is was think was just to take basic dodgeball and use the foam balls that I have and just play dodgeball with slings, it's easy to learn, safe, fun and competitive. Sound like the perfect sport to me. Thoughts?  :-?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Mar 31st, 2015 at 5:38pm
I like  the idea of playing just regular  dodgeball,  but the whole concept  and thought out process of the 'Funda ball' is  greatly ideal. The only thing. I would change  is the size  of  the field, since all the safe ammo doesn't  have  the range.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by blowgunman123 on Mar 31st, 2015 at 11:50pm
Yep, agreed.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Apr 3rd, 2015 at 8:50pm
I actually thought about raquetballs and gave them a whirl (so to speak).  The problem with the raquetballs is that the rubber that they are made of has a very high surface friction, which makes for a great game of raquetteball, but makes for a not-so-great sling ammo.  They can really grab the pouch, curve and have a release learning curve.

Yeah, ya'll might be right about the dimensions of the field though.  Might have to walk a field off at the park or something to get a better idea about what a better size might be...

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Apr 3rd, 2015 at 9:07pm
What about cutting  the size of the field  in 1/2?? Would also give a more high speed game,  like dodgeball.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by LightSlinger on Jun 4th, 2016 at 9:18am

vetryan15 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
What about cutting  the size of the field  in 1/2?? Would also give a more high speed game,  like dodgeball.


       Well, nothing is set in stone of course, but I really feel like the field dimensions are appropriate.  I think that the main problem is going to continue to be the ammunition.   We've gotta have something that is soft, retains it's shape (for accuracy), and sufficiently heavy. 
       I had an idea to wrap some PVC insulating foam around a silicone core but I haven't been able to try it out just yet.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Nov 11th, 2018 at 8:12am
I know this thread is old, and outdated. But I think this deserves a sticky. Especially with the new members we get all the time here. It's one of those forgotten great ideas here. I was just thinking about it recently. Since I have the land, maybe I can start doing more work on field size.  I have a few neighbors that would be interested in playing this and getting it off the ground.
I looked into it a couple years back.  Think special helmets and some sort of padding would suffice.  Almost like professional paintball team uniforms that are used for speedball.  I will take some more research over the winter when I am coupled up in my tiny home

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Curious Novice on Nov 13th, 2018 at 11:29am
Just a side note, I have been slinging racquet balls without a problem with a leather sling. If you sling it hard though, you definitely do not want to be in its path without some kind of protection. I am not sure how easy it would be to sling while wearing padding. Wouldn’t it limit your range of movement?

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Nov 13th, 2018 at 12:00pm
Haven't u seen the padded uniforms of paintball players? Lots of range of movement. Personally I wouldn't use racquet balls. Way to hard,  but them again a lot softer then baseball's.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by RockerSlinger on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:21am
Why not have different ammo for close and far slinging? Tennis balls thrown from slingers at the back should slow down enough in their arc that they wouldn’t be bad. Slingers up close can use foam balls.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by vetryan15 on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:57am

RockerSlinger wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:21am:
Why not have different ammo for close and far slinging? Tennis balls thrown from slingers at the back should slow down enough in their arc that they wouldn’t be bad. Slingers up close can use foam balls.

That would need another set of strict rules for it. That only certain players could use which type, and the referees would probably have a hard time looking for it, unless you added more referees to the field,  which in my opinion, would make the fields, during play look cluttered and unorganized.  Plus more chances of a referee getting in the way, and getting hit. I spent some time years ago, as a paintball referee. Those things do happen.

Title: Re: FUNDA BALL!
Post by Blue Raja on Jan 8th, 2019 at 12:19am
Can't remember if I mentioned this before - would it be possible to play "capture the flag" w/ slings?  Maybe use large foam balls for ammo.  In the summer, you could soak the foam balls in water.

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