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Message started by Sons of benjamin on Aug 17th, 2011 at 7:50pm

Title: weapons for fish?
Post by Sons of benjamin on Aug 17th, 2011 at 7:50pm
I am trying to find a weapon that I could use to fish with.  The only catch is that it has to plausibly fit in a 10 foot kayak.  I've tried just throwing a sharpened stick, but it didn't work as well as I'd hoped.  I've thought about trying the atlatl, or a blowgun.  Any ideas?

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Masiakasaurus on Aug 17th, 2011 at 8:35pm
I'd go with 1 of 3 options: a Hawaiian sling, a polespear, or a travel sized fishing rod. Unless you're made of money, then you should get this.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Bill Skinner on Aug 17th, 2011 at 8:59pm
I have tried bowfishing from a kayak, you need a short bow like the Bear Supermag 48 or the Kodiak Magnum.  With a 60 inch recurve, the bottom limb goes in the water on close shots.  Instead of an atlatl with a flexable dart, the traditional system is a non flexable throwing board with a relativly short stiff harpon.  It works well for short downward shots, not so well for far shots.  Oh, yes, very important, have a strong cord securely attached to your dart, you can sink your dart really deep in a log on the bottom of the river, you want to be able to pull the log up so you can dig the point out with your knife.  And when you are pulling, never forget that kayaks tip over easily.  Bill

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by bigkahuna on Aug 17th, 2011 at 10:50pm
I was thinking of something along the lines of a hollow banboo pole with a barbed tip, with fishing line running down through the inside, and attached to a reel at some point near the distal end.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by bigkahuna on Aug 17th, 2011 at 10:52pm
If you are just looking for a weapon to fish with, try a hand grenade. You will get plenty of fish. ;D

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Sons of benjamin on Aug 17th, 2011 at 11:06pm
I am thinking that the polespear is probably best.  I suppose I could always drop a toaster or something in the water lol

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Steven on Aug 17th, 2011 at 11:27pm
Hinge gun ... think Hawaiian sling with a trigger
http://rocknfish.com/HingeGun.html

For one handed operation after being cocked.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Galvanicfish on Aug 17th, 2011 at 11:38pm
I was hoping this was a plan to arm fish... So I got nothing. Just remember water bends light and you have to compensate.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Steven on Aug 18th, 2011 at 7:50am

Galvanicfish wrote on Aug 17th, 2011 at 11:38pm:
...Just remember water bends light and you have to compensate.

mount a laser pointer in/on the handle and just put the red dot on the fish. saw this done by a bow fisherman.


Here is another view of a hinge gun http://www.reocities.com/Pipeline/curb/5893/images/hingegun.jpg

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by B-ri_1864 on Aug 19th, 2011 at 12:55am
That hinge gun looks really cool yet sort of simple to make. i think ill give that one a try myself. but I cant help but wonder, where would someone be able to find dimensions for such a weapon?

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Steven on Aug 19th, 2011 at 8:42am
Kind of like a sling. There are no dimensions; just make something that fits.

I'd probably start with a block of wood 8 or 9 inches long.
Maximum pull for propelling rubber .. probably in the neighbor hood of 2 to 2.5 feet
So how long to cut the rubber? : http://slingshotforum.com/topic/255-band-or-tube-length-how-to-calculate/page__hl__%2Bcalculate+%2Bband+%2Blength__fromsearch__1

Basically stretch and try till it feels right then cut a couple of bands/tubes

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by paracordslinger on Aug 19th, 2011 at 11:33am
i fish with a blowgun. i have actually gotten fish with it! a barbed dart with a string on it attached to your blowgun. aim below if the sun is behind you, high if it is in front

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Rat Man on Aug 19th, 2011 at 9:29pm
You need to check out Paleoarts fish spear.  

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Sons of benjamin on Aug 19th, 2011 at 10:48pm
Have you guys every made paper hornets (launched with a rubber band)?  I was thinking of making a barbed dart for use with a slingshot.  Do you guys think that it would work?  A slingshot is quite powerful, so I wouldn't see why it wouldn't work.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by paracordslinger on Aug 19th, 2011 at 11:13pm
it would have to be attached to your boat, or you, because if not, the fish wil get hit and swom away, with your dart, and worse,an agonizing death.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Sons of benjamin on Aug 19th, 2011 at 11:29pm
I would bore a hole in the end and attach some 8 lbs test fishing line to it.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by B-ri_1864 on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 1:27am

Steven wrote on Aug 19th, 2011 at 8:42am:
Kind of like a sling. There are no dimensions; just make something that fits.

I'd probably start with a block of wood 8 or 9 inches long.
Maximum pull for propelling rubber .. probably in the neighbor hood of 2 to 2.5 feet
So how long to cut the rubber? : http://slingshotforum.com/topic/255-band-or-tube-length-how-to-calculate/page__hl__%2Bcalculate+%2Bband+%2Blength__fromsearch__1

Basically stretch and try till it feels right then cut a couple of bands/tubes


thank you steven, this helps a lot. its a very neat idea. i hope that regular slingshot surgical tubing will work though. i happen to have one handy from my younger days.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Rat Man on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 5:47pm
Here's what I'm talking about.. a couple of fish spears from Paleoarts.  I especially like the first one though either appears adequate.  I don't work for Chris, I swear!
FishSpear.jpg (121 KB | )

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by HurlinThom on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 6:52pm
Weapons for fish indeed:

http://www.livescience.com/9364-armed-dolphins-set-loose-gulf-katrina.html

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by B-ri_1864 on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 10:06pm

Rat Man wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 5:47pm:
Here's what I'm talking about.. a couple of fish spears from Paleoarts.  I especially like the first one though either appears adequate.  I don't work for Chris, I swear!


that man's got some serious talent, in making about every primitive weapon imaginable.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Masiakasaurus on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 10:58pm
This thread has gone on long enough without an Austin Powers reference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pozlp_wnkRk&feature=related

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Morphy on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 11:25pm

Masiakasaurus wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 10:58pm:
This thread has gone on long enough without an Austin Powers reference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pozlp_wnkRk&feature=related


Far too long.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Rat Man on Aug 27th, 2011 at 8:51am

B-ri_1864 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 10:06pm:

Rat Man wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 5:47pm:
Here's what I'm talking about.. a couple of fish spears from Paleoarts.  I especially like the first one though either appears adequate.  I don't work for Chris, I swear!


that man's got some serious talent, in making about every primitive weapon imaginable.

Amen to that.  He makes some beautiful stuff.

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Rat Man on Aug 28th, 2011 at 7:00pm

HurlinThom wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 6:52pm:
Weapons for fish indeed:

http://www.livescience.com/9364-armed-dolphins-set-loose-gulf-katrina.html

Yikes!!!

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Little on Aug 28th, 2011 at 7:35pm
I juss need a stick with some twine tied to it,  n add a hook maybe a makeshift spoon or a baited hook n I can prolly cetch any fish

Title: Re: weapons for fish?
Post by Little on Aug 28th, 2011 at 7:43pm
http://www.biotechlearn.org.nz/var/biotechlearn/storage/images/focus_stories/fish_oil_in_functional_food/images/inuit_fishing/175842-2-eng-AU/inuit_fishing_large.jpg

my fav time to fish is in winter  :)

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