What do ya'll think?Let's mix it up a bit.You could be Shepard,then Infantryman,work your way to a Governors Guard and finally become a Giant Killer.
 Anyone interested?The old ones sound so stale(Full Member,God Member,etc.etc.).Let's at least talk about it.

 Brett

I've seen Ace, Master, and Virtuoso on one forum and Newbie, Junior, Senior, Master, Maniac, Star, and Superstar on another. I wouldn't mind changing the level names to reflect our hobby better, such as: New Slinger, Junior (or Infantry) Slinger, Ace Slinger, Master Slinger, and Giant Killer (or Virtuoso, etc.)

I'm for changing them. Although I don't really have ideas for what to change them to, I don't really like the idea of the title of god being applied to me,  and I've tried to limit my posting so as to avoid that status for as long as I could, so I'd be happy if it was changed.

-Timothy Potter

wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

What do ya'll think?Let's mix it up a bit.You could be Shepard,then Infantryman,work your way to a Governors Guard and finally become a Giant Killer.  Anyone interested?The old ones sound so stale(Full Member,God Member,etc.etc.).Let's at least talk about it.  Brett

This would imply that persons with higher levels on the forum are automatically better slingers than those with lower levels, which is not necessarily the case. It only means that they have made more written contributions to discussions.

Apart from that, not everybody here slings with an intention to kill or have some para-military aura around him or her. "Infantryman"? No. "Governor's guard"? NO!

The "old" terms are generally more neutral, and I would vote to stick to them.

I see Timothy's argument, though. It might be less controversial to replace "god member" by "master member" or "arch member" or so.

Fundibularius wrote on Jul 16^th, 2011 at 6:42am:

wrote on Jul 15th, 2011 at 3:58pm:  What do ya'll think?Let's mix it up a bit.You could be Shepard,then Infantryman,work your way to a Governors Guard and finally become a Giant Killer.  Anyone interested?The old ones sound so stale(Full Member,God Member,etc.etc.).Let's at least talk about it.  Brett This would imply that persons with higher levels on the forum are automatically better slingers than those with lower levels, which is not necessarily the case. It only means that they have made more written contributions to discussions. Apart from that, not everybody here slings with an intention to kill or have some para-military aura around him or her. "Infantryman"? No. "Governor's guard"? NO! The "old" terms are generally more neutral, and I would vote to stick to them. I see Timothy's argument, though. It might be less controversial to replace "god member" by "master member" or "arch member" or so.

I agree.Why not make them levels for target slinging.Like you've stated,master or arch,just add the slinger instead of member.Also to your point about the posting/level thing,why not have your level increase after a certain amount of time even if your post count is not up to that level.

 Masiaka,should we bump this topic to the main discussion board and try to give it more exposure?

Brett

I also feel uncomfortable with the term "GOD" member as i believe in Him...

Without sounding like a nerd who still lives with his parents, why not go with something like a Jedi level??? (If you are 35, living with your parents and have a Star Wars duvet on your bed, THE FORCE IS NOT WITH YOU !!!)

Or why not come up with a definitive level that may, in future, be applied to all slingers. Something that will reflect a slinger's knowledge, accuracy and range.

If i can come up with a grading system, would you slingers be interested ???

I only ask because such ideas intrigue me greatly and it is something i can greedlily obsess over for the next month.

okay - I can relate to this, consider it done :-)

Also it will be fluid. So if you come up with better names - we can change them :-)
(soon as I remember whereabouts in the control panel it is lol)

right removed probtionary as that applies to zero post members and they get removed as a matter of course.

lol this is harder than it sounds. So yep going to move to general for ideas :-)

Never occured to me that anyone would object to being a god member lol
Just goes to show - if you want something done - tell someone who can do something about it :-)
Keeping it to yourself never helped anyone  ;)


Right so lets have some idea for category names.

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Giant Killer      x 5              1000       Senior Member      x 4              500       Full Member      x 3              100       Junior Member      x 2              10       Forum newbie      x 1              .5

These are current as of ten minutes ago - we've all lost our divinity  ;)

I'm glad I'm not a God member anymore.  I might have a problem giving up my divinity. lol.  

The only constant thing is change,so jlasud thinks let it change.Some ideas:
*         Slinger Baby
**       Slinger Boy
***     Shepard Slinger
****   Mercenary Slinger
***** Expert Slinger      

Mauro agrees with jlasud but would like to read as follows:

*         Stone
**         Lead bullet

and then:

jlasud wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 2:25pm:

***     Shepard Slinger ****   Mercenary Slinger ***** Expert Slinger

Greetings,
Mauro.

New names sounds like a good idea. I'm not comfortable with God member now that you mention it and the other names are very boring IMHO...

I also think there should be more individual titles, like 10 instead of 5.

As far as making titles be based on time as a member that may be discouraging for newer members if they have been active members for 1 year but are a lower title than a lurker of 3 years. Or whatever the case may be. Doing it by posts encourages forum participation which is really what such a small sport as slinging needs.  


Some ideas for titles and possible post counts for each:

Spammer (1-10)
Cannon Fodder (11-49)
Grunt (51-100)
Recruit (101-199)
Centurion (200-499)
Officer (200-499)
Sage (500-999)
Dead eye (500-999)
Crack shot (1001-1499)
Adept (1000-1499)
Giant killer (already posted but a good one) (1501-2499)
Master Slinger (2500-3499)
Grandmaster (3500+)

I was never really comfortable with "God Member" so I am glad thats changed. Once we get a definitive list of names we should make a poll on that as well.

Oh and just to throw in some names.

"Hazardous slinger", try not to have things too humiliating  so that it prevents people from joining.

The rest of the names are pretty good but, it's up to the rest of the crew.

I thought God Member was funny, but I can see why some people don't like it.  Giant Killer is better anyhow.
I do not think there should be more ranks than we already have, but different would be fun.  Here are some Roman rankings (off of this website  http://s_van_dorst.tripod.com/Ancient_Warfare/Rome/hierarchy.html)  If we do this, I think we should keep it in Roman without any explanation, make people look it up if they want to know.

New Member-
Tiro (recruit). He was not yet subjected to full rigors of military discipline until he passed out and was registered as a real soldier, no regular pay so presumably living of his enlistment bounty or viaticum.

Junior Member-
Miles (private). He was on basic pay and eligible for fatigue duties. Legionary cavalrymen had higher basic pay, as did their NCO's due to the higher cost of equipment.
or
Discens (trainee). Private in training for special function, basic pay and eligible to fatigue duties.

Full Member-
Centurio ('commander of hundred' 8-)), officer in command of a centuria also ordinarius or title derived from original place in the battle order. There was some variation in seniority and remuneration between these officers.

Senior Member-
Tribunus. There were six of these officers to a legion and usually there were five equestrian tribuni angusticlavii and one senatorial tribunus laticlavius, named thin - or broad striped after the purple lines on their tunics that indicated their social status. The last one was had higher status and functioned as second-in-command of the legion.
or
Legatus legionis. A senatorial officer who generally had seen prior service as tribunus and was placed in charge of the legion.

And I like Giant Killer for God Member, but I like the Roman Ranks so much that perhaps we should bump Giant Killer up to 1500 or 2000  (I know that made quite a stir last time, so maybe not…)

I'm going to second the suggestion for more sport like, less military titles. A possibility:
Ball Slinger
Rock Slinger
Glande Slinger
Dart Slinger

I like Eorapture's idea

Arthur the great wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 10:58pm:

I like Eoraptor's idea

I agree -  novel, amusing and slightly quirky, and appropriate to slinging.  :) The only thing possibly against it is that people generally don't know the hierachy of these ranks (me included).

Just wanted to see what I am now.... ::)

Aussie wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 11:19pm:

Arthur the great wrote on Jul 18th, 2011 at 10:58pm: I like Eoraptor's idea I agree -  novel, amusing and slightly quirky, and appropriate to slinging.  :) The only thing possibly against it is that people generally don't know the hierachy of these ranks (me included).

I`d say that novel, amusing and slightly quirky would be great names for the lower ranks :D
timann

timann wrote on Jul 19^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2011 at 11:19pm: Arthur the great wrote on Jul 18th, 2011 at 10:58pm: I like Eoraptor's idea I agree -  novel, amusing and slightly quirky, and appropriate to slinging.  :) The only thing possibly against it is that people generally don't know the hierachy of these ranks (me included). I`d say that novel, amusing and slightly quirky would be great names for the lower ranks :D timann

I like the way you think, timann! :D

I like Eoraptor's idea about latin ranks, especially because they don't look military to the casual observer.
Novicius * .5
Tiro ** 10
Descens *** 100
Funditor **** 500
Trucido de Gigans/Gigantes ***** 1000

Newbie, Recruit, Private/Trainee, Slinger, and Killer of Giant(s)

I agree that it is a good idea. I have the same concern as Aussie though. It may be that our newer members don't even realize there is any titles unless they happen to be fluent in Latin.

copying tints idea

I just wanted to see what I am now. :-?

You can call me anything you want, but if you choose to call me GOD...
BEWARE!!!

For now, junior is just fine and helps keep me in my place... :D

I like the new levels. :D

lmao - look if so many of you objected to the term god member - why didn't anyone say anything ?

You know I;m tempted to add an extra category above 1000 just to see how many toys get thrown out of the pram this time  ;D
But given the very few members who hang around long enough to actually reach a 1000 posts. Probably not worth it in the long run. Most of us are mods or ex-mods anyway :-)


Have to admit I like the latin terms - so for now that's what it's going to be with giant killer in english.

And if new members don't know what it means - they can either ask or look it up :-)
Since when did we not encourage the acquisition of knowlege round here ?

Dang, I always fancied the title of "God" here, but I'm all for change every now and then.

Not really a fan of giant killer, but roman names would work. Though I'd like some words thrown in somewhere like "Royal, Buccaneer". Not really full of ideas right now, just positive I'd prefer not to be "giant killer". Maybe a "Samurai" rank? (I've got 13 assassins stuck in my head now, as well as pirates".

Will we be keeping the current system of 1000+ all get a title, 500-999 a title, so on, or vary it up even more?
I'd like it if there were more changes from 1000 up, since there are people here who have 3000 up, albeit very, very few, probably counted on one hand if I took the time to check.

Liking the new names, though not quote as humbling as other forums have like weak-sauce or tinder gatherer they still fit the bill. :)

I think their are pretty cool. You might want to put some kind of note  or somthing up so we don't have begginers constantly asking us what Novicius means.  ;)

im not a big fan of the latin names. i would rther have a name system such as relating to the styles of slinging
with underhand, overhand, helicopter, byzantine, balaeric, figure 8... and so son and so on.

But that wouldn´t really illustrate the levels; why rate helicopter  higher or lower than byzantine, for instance.
I like my current title of funditor, and the idea of the latin names is fine by me.
That said, why the "Giant killer"? It is not in style with the rest and I find it personally a bit...cheesy?

I think the Latin ones are fine also.I only suggested Giant Killer as a nod to our grandfather of slinging,King David.Speaking of cheesy,God member was just that.

Brett

Yeah, God member was definitely over the top ;D.

I don't think it sounds good to have the latin names, and then one english name. I would prefer either 5 latin names or 5 english ones. I prefer the latin ones though  :D

3 consecutive votes for changing giant killer. Consider it done. For now it's just "giant killer" in latin, but we can pick something else if we want to completely abandon giant killer.

I wish there was a latin word for spammer. I still think that would be funny considering how often someone under 10 posts is actually really a spammer.  ;D I think these latin names are starting to grow on me though. Good idea Eoraptor.  :)

Masiakasaurus wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2011 at 4:35pm:

3 consecutive votes for changing giant killer. Consider it done. For now it's just "giant killer" in latin, but we can pick something else if we want to completely abandon giant killer.

Sorry, Masi, but "trucido de gigantes" is not Latin, more of a mixture of Latin and Spanish. Google translator is a nice thing, but it can let you down.

"Trucido" is an expression that is more applied to an assassin or a murderer, someone who stabs people from behind. A word like "interfector" would be more adequate for somebody who slew his opponent in a fair duel.

Secondly, the relation to "of (the) giant" in Latin is not expressed by a preposition like in most modern Romance languages ("de"), but by the genitive case singular of the word "gigas" (giant), which is "gigantis". So "interfector gigantis" would be a proper term, imo.

Looking up the David/Goliath passage in the Bible, I found that the Latin version (Vulgata) does not use the word "gigas" for the "giant" Goliath at all, however, but "vir spurius". If you want to keep closer to that model, the correspondent to "killer of the giant" would be "interfector viris spurii".

When applied to a female member, though, it should correctly read "interfectrix viris spurii".

Gigantes is actually a greek lone word in latin and doesn't follow latin spelling conventions, as far as I can tell. Looking up interfector gives me "murderer" while trucidor gives me "slayer" but I'm not really sure which is better... Google translator definitely let me down when it told me "trucido de gigantes," though. The latin Bible doesn't actually call Goliath a giant, AFAIK. I think "vir spurius" means duelist, actually. "Interfector Viris Spurii" would be "the person who's killed many duelists." Pretty cool title actually, but not a word for word translation. I like it better. :) It implies slinging ability in the same way as "Giant killer" did, it's still a nod to David who is the most famous recorded slinger, but it isn't exclusively biblical either. That settles it, I'm changing the title. I mean, I have to correct my translation mistakes, right? ;)

[edit]I found a side-by-side translation of the latin Bible, and it translates vir spurius as "champion."[/edit]

Masiakasaurus wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 11:34am:

Gigantes is actually a greek lone word in latin and doesn't follow latin spelling conventions, as far as I can tell.

It surely does follow the spelling and declination rules, being a loan word or not. It is regularly "gigas" (nom. sg.)., "gigantis" (gen. sg.) etc.

Or, in a more "latinized" (later?) form, "gigantis" (nom. sg.)., "gigantis" (gen. sg.) etc.

In both cases, "gigantes" would be the nom. and acc. pl. Having killed only one giant, though, our hero  could probably not be called "slayer of (several) giants". Leaving aside that the case then would be gen. pl. "gigantum".

I agree about the "champion" translation for "vir spurius". It is how the New Jerusalem Bible translates the expression.

Personally, I would prefer another word for the member status,  "gigantoctonus". I am not sure if it is correct, though, as it is in fact latinized Greek.

I must admit the term Interfector Viris Spurii suits me a lot better than the term God, which was a little overkill :D  

Masiakasaurus wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 11:34am:

"Interfector Viris Spurii" would be "the person who's killed many duelists."

8-)  I am now excited about getting to 1000 posts.

Eoraptor wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 5:58pm:

Masiakasaurus wrote on Jul 23rd, 2011 at 11:34am: "Interfector Viris Spurii" would be "the person who's killed many duelists." 8-)  I am now excited about getting to 1000 posts.

It does have a nice ring to it, particularly once the meaning is known.

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Interfector Viris Spurii

where the hell did that come from ?

I grant you it's different lol :o

Think I'd prefer something a little more obvious.  ;)

lol

Anyway as we now have 'I always hated god member' declarists coming out of the woodwork right left and centre.
Can we - in future - at least make it known to one of the mods if you all really don't like something ?
I'd much rather we knew about this kind of crap than people just sat at home and festered, muttering to themselves: 'didn't wanna be god, nuh uh, not me, nope'.

Me too.If everyone had all these opinions,why not speak up!Anyhow,I've created a monster.Sorry,I mean,you're welcome. ;)

 Brett

lol well you never told us either jax  ;D

It didn't really bother me,I was just waiting for the newer(and cooler 8-))names ;)

Poll Locked!Overwhelming majority has created new titles!Thanks all!

 Brett

P.S.  I reopened with a new poll.Masi,Can you reset the poll count?I could not(OE)

Done. I voted to keep them the same for now, BTW.

I have come through whatever the Latin name for beginner was to now,  my memory is vague on what I was on the progression on up.  Also may I suggest some modern military ranks to go with the progression?  like small icons under our avatars or something rather;  I'm sure I can conjure up some ranks after I know how many we have on this forum and offer suggestions.

couldn't remember, so here's the list from the forum control panel :-)

Though I'm not sure how you can have half a post :noidea:
There'sa thread explaining them all around somewhere.

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awesome thanks mr sirs

Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 6:29am:

Though I'm not sure how you can have half a post :noidea:

It may be because you have to post strictly more than X ? Then, more than 0.5 is at least 1. Same with Tiro at 11, etc...

Letsee this is one idea have you the Administrator be a : Commander-in-chief
                                                                         
                                                                         Mods        :  Field Marshal/General of the Army-(5 star insignia or Field Marshal insignia)

                                                                         Interfectors:  General(4 stars insignia or UK insignia for all the other ranks)

                                                                         Funditor:  Lieutenant General- (3 stars)
                                                                         
                                                                         Descens:  Major General(2 stars)
                                                                       
                                                                         Tiro:  Brigadier General(1 star)
 
                                                                         Novicius:  Colonel(an eagle)

or we can have it like this

Interfector:  Sergeant

Funditor:  Corporal

Descens:  Lance Corporal

Tiro:  Private

Novicius:  Recruit

I kind of like the look of the first of my idea,  looks a lot more interesting than just Enlisted ranks  :D.  

Hmm well heres an example of what they can look like

Mods

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Interfector Viris Spurii

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Funditor

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Descens

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Tiro

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Novicius

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I don't want to destroy the fun, but please leave it as it is.
First, we already have stars above our avatars.
Second I don't really feel the need to be titulated entitled by any military ranks or insignia, wether UK, US or any other. We are not an army nor a private army but mainly a weird international collection of humans (well, at least I hope so ;) ) with many different backgrounds.
Third, if you want a military title, you can include it for your own. You have one line below your avatar where you can add some text. By the way, your current one is: :3

Teg wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:59am:

I don't want to destroy the fun, but please leave it as it is. First, we already have stars above our avatars. Second I don't really feel the need to be titulated by any military ranks or insignia, wether UK, US or any other. We are not an army nor a private army but mainly a weird international collection of humans (well, at least I hope so ;) ) with many different backgrounds. Third, if you want a military title, you can include it for your own. You have one line below your avatar where you can add some text. By the way, your current one is: :3

Hear, hear.

Teg wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:59am:

I don't want to destroy the fun, but please leave it as it is. First, we already have stars above our avatars. Second I don't really feel the need to be titulated entitled by any military ranks or insignia, wether UK, US or any other. We are not an army nor a private army but mainly a weird international collection of humans (well, at least I hope so ;) ) with many different backgrounds. Third, if you want a military title, you can include it for your own. You have one line below your avatar where you can add some text. By the way, your current one is: :3

+1
I think that it could be optional.

I agree with Teg 100%.

The current Latin category names are neutral enough for me. :)

Jabames wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:15am:

Letsee this is one idea have you the Administrator be a : Commander-in-chief                                                                                                                                                    Mods        :  Field Marshal/General of the Army-(5 star insignia or Field Marshal insignia)                                                                          Interfectors:  General(4 stars insignia or UK insignia for all the other ranks)                                                                          Funditor:  Lieutenant General- (3 stars)                                                                                                                                                    Descens:  Major General(2 stars)                                                                                                                                                  Tiro:  Brigadier General(1 star)                                                                            Novicius:  Colonel(an eagle) or we can have it like this Interfector:  Sergeant Funditor:  Corporal Descens:  Lance Corporal Tiro:  Private Novicius:  Recruit I kind of like the look of the first of my idea,  looks a lot more interesting than just Enlisted ranks  :D.

When we picked the names for the post counts we were actually trying not to look martial.

can't remember what the latin names mean.
But they look like we know what we're talking about :whistle:
And that's fine by me :-)