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Message started by Rat Man on Apr 1st, 2009 at 4:49pm

Title: Jute
Post by Rat Man on Apr 1st, 2009 at 4:49pm
I finally made a sling that I'm not ashamed to display, but my kid did something to the computer and it won't recognize my camera.  I'll try to get her to fix it tonight.  I made it from jute, of a much thinner guage than the other materials I've been using.  The thickness wasn't on the package, so I  can only guess at it's diameter... maybe 1/16 of an inch.  On the roll it says #181 natural, but that means nothing to me.  Anyway, it came out great and I can't wait to show it.  
  My question:  while slinging today the sling flew off of my finger and into the lake.  Is jute harmed by water in any way?  I don't think so, but I don't know.  I have it hanging out to dry from the shower curtain rod with a fairly heavy stone in it now.  In that it's my first really aesthetically decent sling (Rockman style) I'd hate to ruin it.  
Thanks
Btw, thin is in!  This works great and won't be my last skinny sling.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Rockman on Apr 1st, 2009 at 5:03pm
As long as it is not salt water, it will be ok. My own jute slings have been wet with aparently little to no damage. That is, until it came in contact with sea water. A few days later, it was ruined. The strings looked like they were from 20 years ago.

Thin strings are the way to go for more power, I recently tried a heavy vs. light sling. Light sling wins for speed, heavy sling wins for control.


Title: Re: Jute
Post by castanon93 on Apr 1st, 2009 at 6:27pm
lol, they have finally started calling them rockman slings :)
cant wait to see the pictures, btw, how do you call jute in spanish, i want to get some natural fiber.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Steven on Apr 1st, 2009 at 6:52pm

castanon93 wrote on Apr 1st, 2009 at 6:27pm:
lol, .. how do you call jute in spanish ..

guita del yute , if bablefish is to be believed , is spanish for jute twine

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Title: Re: Jute
Post by dork on Apr 1st, 2009 at 10:50pm
Jute is the only material I use. I love the stuff. Its cheap, durable, and easy to work with. I don't think water will affect it at all, I have used mine in the rain and it just dried out fine. But thats different than being completely submerged in water.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by xxkid123 on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:50pm
this is actually good, it'll make it softer

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Fx 2000 on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 6:21pm
Its like xxkid123 said, it makes it softer. I make my sling of flachs, itīs a natural fiber than jute. They are verry strong and longlife.
I protect my sling with natural wax, like I do it with my bowstring.

Michel from germany

sorry of my bad english

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Rueben on Apr 3rd, 2009 at 1:26am

Rat Man wrote on Apr 1st, 2009 at 4:49pm:
while slinging today the sling flew off of my finger and into the lake.


You could whip the loop smaller so it will stay on your finger. On one of the first slings I braided, I made the retention loop just barely big enough for my finger. This worked great, but took quite a bit of fiddling and means the sling can not easily be used by anyone else. I now just make the loop larger and whip it smaller to fit my finger.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by walter on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:48am
Ratman, would like to see your sling. Are you going to post the pic?!

Anyone know how long to cut the cords for a 30" sling from pouch to retention knot/loop? In inches/feet?

Walter

Title: Re: Jute
Post by timann on Apr 4th, 2009 at 12:37pm
Walter, look among Guides and Articles -Advice and How-To`s at Dan Bollingers Illustrated Guide.  There you`ll find the cords should be 2,8 X finnished lenght.
Everyone should read the Advice and How-To`s, lots of useful stuff there  ;)
timann

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Ethan on Apr 4th, 2009 at 5:22pm
My Apache sling is braided jute, and it's been soaked repeatedly, with no ill effects. It tends to soak water up pretty well, and gets kinda waterlogged, but it dries pretty quickly.
As for sea water, I'd think that's because of salt crystals left behind when the water dried. Salt, sand, and other little gritty bits wreak havoc on fibers, especially natural ones. With the amount of movement sling cords go through, it shouldn't take long for sharp little grains to totally slash around your sling. I know on the Climbing course where I work, we can't certify any ropes as Safe for Climbing if they've been in contact with gravel/sand, because they can be cut or frayed so easily.
I think keeping any slings away from that kind of thing would be a very wise idea, both for the longevity of the sling and the safety hazards that arise from inadequate sling cords.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by David Morningstar on Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:48am

walter wrote on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:48am:
Ratman, would like to see your sling. Are you going to post the pic?!

Anyone know how long to cut the cords for a 30" sling from pouch to retention knot/loop? In inches/feet?

Walter



For braided slings I cut three cords that are six times longer than I want the folded length of the sling to be. I get a bit left over but not too much.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by xxkid123 on Apr 5th, 2009 at 1:56pm

walter wrote on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:48am:
Ratman, would like to see your sling. Are you going to post the pic?!

Anyone know how long to cut the cords for a 30" sling from pouch to retention knot/loop? In inches/feet?

Walter


try 3 14-15 feet each cords with the folded in half method. with ten feet-each-cords i can get from 22inches to 24 inches(when folded in half).

Title: Re: Jute
Post by winkleried on Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:59pm
My guide that I use says to cut the cords 2.8 times the lenght you need.......YMMV

Marc Adkins


David Morningstar wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:48am:

walter wrote on Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:48am:
Ratman, would like to see your sling. Are you going to post the pic?!

Anyone know how long to cut the cords for a 30" sling from pouch to retention knot/loop? In inches/feet?

Walter



For braided slings I cut three cords that are six times longer than I want the folded length of the sling to be. I get a bit left over but not too much.


Title: Re: Jute
Post by David Morningstar on Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:03am

winkleried wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:59pm:
My guide that I use says to cut the cords 2.8 times the lenght you need.......YMMV

Marc Adkins


Yep, that will be the unfolded length of the sling. I made a big Apache sling a couple of weeks ago, I wanted the loaded pouch to reach across to the opposite shoulder. I pulled each cord out to that length six times before cutting. The sling came out perfectly.

Title: Re: Jute
Post by Rat Man on Apr 7th, 2009 at 8:12pm
I would love to show my sling along with the 4 footer I made today, which is 2/3 jute and 1/3 sisal.  My slings have slowly evolved from comical and pathetic looking but functional to, at least I think, normal looking.  I've taken several pictures of them but unfortunately my kid has done something to the computer (maybe?) where it no longer recognizes my camera.  Or the usb cord went bad.  I appreciate your interest and I'll show some pictures as soon as I get this problem fixed.  I'm sure the comments will help me quite a bit.  If I can't figure out my computer problems I'll lend my camera to a friend and he can load the pics to his computer then email them to me.  

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