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Message started by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 6th, 2008 at 6:06am

Title: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sling
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 6th, 2008 at 6:06am
(Admin:  If you wish, you have my blessing to add this tutorial to the "Advice and How-to" section of the site.)

With earnest thanks to Stormdrane of EDCforums.com, whose design I modified to arrive at this one, I present this tutorial that shows how to make a paracord sling with a solid, cupped pouch.  I just now decided that I was tired of linking people to EDCforums to see these instructions when they really should reside here at a dedicated SLINGING website.  :D

This might bear more popularity if more people learn about it.  (It's fairly easy to do, with no special knot knowledge or experience required.)

When Stormdrane graciously posted his instructions for how to make a 3-strand sheet-bend paracord sling, I set to work immediately on making one... then a few.

And while I loved it, I never really did use it.  I felt the immediate need to make the pouch wider (his was a 3-strand sheet-bend pouch; this is a 5-strand), so as to retain the projectile more securely.  I wanted it to have the ability to be more cup-like.

This is the result of my experimentation, and since I have had at least one request to post a "tutorial," here is my go at doing that.  Instructions for each photo will be at the top of the photo.

Good luck!



Begin with a length of (ungutted) paracord.  I am sorry I don't have an exact length to tell you, since I didn't keep track, but it ought to be about 8-9 feet to be on the safe side.  (You can always cut it down when you are finishing it.)
Fold the cord like this.  You will be creating five lengths that are doubled next to each other.





This project is done with full symmetry through the center point, so do the exact same thing to both sides.  (You can do this one side at a time, of course, but keep track of the strands.)  Take the bight that lies next to each working end, and lay it on top of the bight next to it.





"Lasso" around the two bights with the working end.  (Make your work look exactly like you see here.)





Tuck the working end (they are short in this example but will be about 4 feet long on a live specimen) over itself and then down through both of the bights





Here is what it will look like with both sides of the pouch done.
IMPORTANT:  Take careful note of that strand that is running diagonally from low-left to high-right.  That is your middle-most single strand.  When you flip the pouch over to begin weaving the next step, make sure it is the center strand!  From there it should be easy to see which are the outer-most and second-outer-most strands.





FLIP THE PIECE OVER.  A moment ago, you were looking at the back of the pouch.  You will now be looking at the front of the pouch.  You can tell one from the other because when looking into the pouch, you will see the working ends coming out of the bights "toward" you.

This section should be at least 4.5" - 5.5" long.  (It is shown here shorter than it should be.)    You will need to make the corresponding lengths of the strands in the pouch approximately equal in length, but you should be finding that the center-most three will "pouch down" to make a sort of cupping.  Play with it.  But at this point when I make one, the pouch already seems to "know" which side is the cup.
Tighten up the "lassos" that wrap the bights.





Now it is time to start weaving a second strand in.  Wasn't I nice to use a highly contrasting cord color?  
You might as well just start from the left side and poke a short length (about 4") through as you see here (exactly as you see here) so that sticking out to the right is the part that will be the end (as you will see in the next picture).  The left side is your working end which will be woven across the pouch.





Now you can see the right-to-left-to-right weave of the crossing (orange) strand.  Continue weaving O-U-O-U-O-U... all the way to the other side of the pouch.
IMPORTANT NOTE:  It is not necessary at first, nor will it likely even be possible, for you to make these strands snug up against each other and look like the arrangement in a Ladder Rack Knot.  As long as the overall shape of this pouch is more or less almond-shaped, it will be fine.  Do try to keep it even, of course, but small gaps are not only not undesirable, they are more-or-less unavoidable.  With that said, however, based on the fact that an EDCforumite named Nephiel proved just how tight and handsome this pouch can be woven, I revisited my technique and discovered that you can indeed make this pouch look pretty darned neat.  It's going to take some effort, you can be sure of that, but it can be done.  If it doesn't happen on your first sling, don't even worry.  Just keep it, and work tighter on the next one.  The first, not-so-tight one will still work just fine.  (P.S.  Thanks, Nephiel, for showing me the potential of this pouch design!)





This is the pouch when the weaving has been completed and tightened-up and evened-up.  Yes, you will have to do a little "working" of the orange cord.  Use your fingers to push or pull the horizontal strands along their green warp strands if they seem to be bunched toward one end or the other.  Fit as many crosswise orange strands as you can, to minimize gaps in the pouch.  It may help to have a titanium "icepick" marlinspike from LCranston, like I do.  ;)

(If you discover that your pouch seems to be longer than you want it to be, you can undo some of the cross-woven strands, and re-work the sheet-bend strands until the length is more to your liking.)





Flip the work over and look at the back side of the pouch.  Single out the specific strand that I have picked up with the titanium spike in the picture.  Tuck the short end of the orange cord under that strand, and the one beyond it.  That should be good enough to keep it plenty secure, although you can always go for a third strand.  (Remember, you will do this for each symmetrical end of the pouch, and it will look exactly the same as the first side or you did something wrong.)





Clip the end and melt it according to your preference for finishing paracord ends.  Tie your preferred loop in one end of the green cord, and a stopper knot at the other end, and you have yourself a sling!  I favor a "Longbow Knot" for the loop, and an "Ashley's Stopper Knot" for the trigger knot.

For ammunition, go to Walmart and check in the home decor area for "decorator accents" and such.  I bought a bag of glass droplets that are close to an inch in diameter.  They are shaped like bon-bons, or Cella's cherry candies, and nestle perfectly into the pouch.  Yes, I would prefer polished steel balls for their additional mass, but they are not cheap!  I also find that this pouch works very well with golf balls.





Please use care, intelligence and maturity when using your sling.  I of course have no control of, and bear no responsibility for, what you do with your sling.  I am only a learning novice, myself.  Many thanks to all on slinging.org who give of their knowledge and experience so freely.

Be safe, and have fun!  


(Here are some pictures of a completed specimen using UAC paracord, which makes a handsome sling)





Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Indiana on Nov 6th, 2008 at 11:17am
Thanks so much i have been wanting to make one for ages.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 6th, 2008 at 3:37pm
I have shown you The Way.   ;)

Good luck.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by jax on Nov 6th, 2008 at 6:49pm
Jeffrey,

Nice tutorial!These might be good for the archives.You should p.m. Chris or somebody and see if these clear pictures and instructions can be put in tutorials section.

   Thanks,

            Brett

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by StaffSlinger on Nov 6th, 2008 at 7:39pm
I'll second that PJ - send a PM to the administrators and ask them to put it in the tutorials.

Now id someone would come up with a simple net pouch that this old fart can follow... the one in the tutorials sections leaves steps out or assumes you know something more than I know...  Ah well, I guess i can't have everything!

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rueben on Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:10am
Thanks for the writeup Jeffrey. As others suggested, this should get added to the articles section. The only thing I would add is to mention that the weaving may be done with "gutted" paracord. Also, my approximately 65cm, 7 strand paracord sling used up just under 4m of paracord total. Around 2.3m of paracord was used for the sling and the rest for the weaving.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 17th, 2008 at 7:21am
There doesn't seem to be an interest in converting the info in this thread into an article in the How-To section...  I haven't gotten a response to my query.   :P

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by StaffSlinger on Nov 17th, 2008 at 7:49am
PJ - make sure you send your note to all the Administrators.  Not all of them seem attentive to their email all the time.  Or your message gets caught in a spam-fighter trap; or random electrons in the Universe decide to do you wrong...

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 17th, 2008 at 4:10pm
Well, I added a solicitation to the top of the thread, but I also sent a PM to CuriousAardvark but haven't heard anything further.

edit:  OOPS.  No, I didn't.  I sent it to "Chris" (administrator).

Next stop, C.A.!  :D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by curious_aardvark on Nov 18th, 2008 at 7:04am
lol you were right the first time - it's chris you need to contact :-)
Check out the stickied 'want articles' topic at the top of the page.
Articles need to be laid out in a certin way.

Personally I reckon this one looks good. Woven solid pouches get my thumbs up - but it's not my call :-)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 18th, 2008 at 8:08pm
Thanks.  I'll check with Chris, and consult the sticky you mentioned.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Gronk on Nov 18th, 2008 at 8:16pm
I second..or third..or wherever I am, the vote for this to be a sticky or a 'how-to'

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Nov 18th, 2008 at 8:55pm

wrote on Nov 18th, 2008 at 8:16pm:
I second..or third..or wherever I am, the vote for this to be a sticky or a 'how-to'


Thanks!  :)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Jysky on Nov 29th, 2008 at 9:17am
Thanks a lot Peacefuljeffrey for your illustrated instructions!

I have made couple of slings using 4mm plastic rope and those turn out quite good, after I learned from my mistakes. At the beginning I woved the pouch too tight and all the five strand in it were equally long (No good!).
But then I studied the instructions again and the second sling was already much better.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Lycurgus on Nov 29th, 2008 at 10:32am
Thanks so much for posting this how to, I am now convinced to have a go but would like to use a more natural material (Sorry, its the hippy in me.)
Can anyone suggest what might work best? I thought perhaps sisal, or maybe even sashcord.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by David Morningstar on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:00am
Try these with natural materials:

http://slinging.org/index.php?page=making-a-braided-sling-an-illustrated-guide
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-build-and-use-a-traditional-apache-sling---l-w-forsyth

I have made one from cotton string with a leather pouch and one from sisal twine which I didnt like because the quality of the cord was poor. It was very rough and hairy.

Hemp and jute are good materials to use.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Lycurgus on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:13am
Is there no end to the info on this site?
Thanks for all your help, I am a complete novice at this slinging lark.
Isn't it a little ironic that one of the most ancient of arts is being spread and kept alive by the most modern of technologies. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by curious_aardvark on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:41am

Quote:
Is there no end to the info on this site?


one would hope not :-)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by StaffSlinger on Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:27pm
Lycurgus - any of the natural fibers should work well with this design.  Jute "macarame fiber' comes immediately to mind.  If you had really thin natural cord you could chain-hitch or 3-strand braid together 15 or 20 feet of a thicker cord, and then use that to make the Sheetbend sling.  The possibilities are endless.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Unsapien on Dec 2nd, 2008 at 11:37pm
I love the simplicity of this design!

Finally a useful way to employ the sheep shank.  ;D
I especially like it because you only need one type of material to create the entire sling without several independent strands and you can complete it in a relatively short period of time.
I don't know why I never thought to add more bights to the sheep shank. Lack of vision I suppose.
Thanks, I made myself a trial one already. Very quick to make, but have not tested it yet.

-Unsapien

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Dec 4th, 2008 at 2:52am
That's me--I'm just a visionary!  :D

I hope you enjoy your sling.

The simplicity of the design is something of which I too am very fond.  I love simplicity.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by curious_aardvark on Dec 4th, 2008 at 8:01am

Quote:
I don't know why I never thought to add more bights to the sheep shank

yeah that one keeps me awake at night too ;-)
(just wish I knew what it meant lol)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by kuggur slingdog on Dec 4th, 2008 at 11:34am
You know amazingly little about knotting for a sling adept, CA ;D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by StaffSlinger on Dec 4th, 2008 at 2:13pm
c_a  ... that's "bights to the sheepshank", not "bites to the sheep  shank." :o ;D

kuggar - I thought all you had to know to be a "sling adept" was which end of the sling the rock when in.. :o ::)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Unsapien on Dec 8th, 2008 at 6:53pm

I tend to get knotted up in my own jargon. Sorry ::)


It has been pretty wet, dark and crowded recently. Even with my shoulder mended I can't go slinging. I'm getting hammered by work and school. I would like nothing better than to spend an hour slinging, yet it's foggy, dark and pouring the only times I'm outside.

I think is is SAD, but I have no choice?  :'(

-Unsapien

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Lycurgus on Dec 10th, 2008 at 11:11am
NB:This is a re-do of an earlier post because I inadvertantly deleted it......spot the technoindifferent hippy.

I did it, I made the sling as described, out of two strand sisal because I managed to get a big reel of the stuff for nowt, and it works, by gum it works. I took it out for a sling in The Memorial Park in Coventry which is about the largest open space around and got a few strange but interested looks from old ladies with dogs, and a few blatant stares from other people (Only some of whom returned my cheery waves.)
Didn't get much distance but my accuracy improved as time went on.

Anyway now I have made one, I will have to try a braided sling because I like the look of them and I just know that this is going to get addictive. Is there such a thing as S.A.D? (Thats Sling Acquisition Disorder)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by BrianGrubbs on Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:40pm
Yes there is, and sadly there is only one treatment... more slings!!

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Joseph Curwen on Dec 11th, 2008 at 6:28am
Thank you peacefulljeffray for your build-along!

Just made this one yesterday evening while watching tv



I tried it this morning, and it worked wonderfully  :D

Joe

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by kuggur slingdog on Dec 11th, 2008 at 8:00am

BrianGrubbs wrote on Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:40pm:
Yes there is, and sadly there is only one treatment... more slings!!


You do realise thatīs the same as saying "more beer" is the treatment of choice for alcoholism.... ;D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by BrianGrubbs on Dec 11th, 2008 at 8:34pm
My alchoholic friend says that more beer is the treatment for alchoholism... I guess I can't be objective about my problem either ;)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Dec 16th, 2008 at 6:59pm

Joseph Curwen wrote on Dec 11th, 2008 at 6:28am:
Thank you peacefulljeffray for your build-along!

Just made this one yesterday evening while watching tv



I tried it this morning, and it worked wonderfully  :D

Joe



Joseph Curwen?

The Joseph Curwen?

I thought he was turned into a pile of fine, bluish-grey dust!  ;D


I'm glad you had success in making the five-strand woven paracord sling, and that it's working well for you.
Enjoy!

P.S.  Leave the remains of our Founding Fathers alone, all right?!

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Joseph Curwen on Dec 17th, 2008 at 2:46am

peacefuljeffrey wrote on Dec 16th, 2008 at 6:59pm:
Joseph Curwen?

The Joseph Curwen?

I thought he was turned into a pile of fine, bluish-grey dust!  ;D


I'm glad you had success in making the five-strand woven paracord sling, and that it's working well for you.
Enjoy!

P.S.  Leave the remains of our Founding Fathers alone, all right?!


 :D

Well, i'm back, thanks to Charles, a good boy...

I left Providence for Toulouse (France), better weather.

But it is true that i was not in the forum for ages   ;D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Dec 17th, 2008 at 3:41am
I was just talking with my friend Dr. Marinus Bicknell Willett about the recent midnight disturbances in the local graveyards.

But you claim to have been out of the country... Friends of yours, then?  ;)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Stormtroopman on Jan 9th, 2009 at 6:26pm
I made one of these and it came out way better than I thought it would!

I'm usually all thumbs.  ;)

It's tannish green paracord, and I can't figure out how to post images so just view it in your mind's eye!
;D

Thanks for the great walkthrough.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jan 10th, 2009 at 7:07am
You're quite welcome.

I'm thrilled that this design and build-along are giving people such good results!  :D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by sv on Jan 18th, 2009 at 8:44am
hi - i just "salvaged" a hundred one-inch ball bearings (65 grams or 2.3 oz) which my sling can't handle since it's a split pouch design. yours looks ideal for steel balls, i look forward to trying it out. thanks!

SV

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jan 19th, 2009 at 3:42am
:o

You can't possibly know how much I wish I could just stumble across a hundred 1-inch bearings as "salvage"!!

This design should work perfectly!

Have fun!

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Lycurgus on Feb 9th, 2009 at 11:28am
I have just come back from a weekend in a lovely Shropshire valley with some close friends and introduced some of them to the joys of slinging.
After looking at the few slings I had brought along they all decided to make one.

Which one you ask?

Well it was none other than the 5-Strand Woven Pouch.

Congrats to Mr Peaceful Jeffrey for providing an easy to make nice looking sling. We had lots of fun slinging Snowballs and Crab Apples across the valley and DEFINATELY NOT  ;) trying to hit the LLamas which a local farmer had in a field by the river below us  ;D

Sorry no photos available as my watch, phone and keys etc were banished and/or turned off.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rat Man on Feb 9th, 2009 at 1:37pm
Peacefuljeffrey, you are the man.  Your instructions are so easy even a dsylexic like me can do it.  I'm used to tying a three strand sling... so why not make it a fiver.  Good job, sir!

Rat Man

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rat Man on Feb 9th, 2009 at 1:42pm
Btw, if Joseph Curwen has returned, I'm going to really practice my slinging aim.  I wonder if a sling rock would have any effect on him?  Maybe if it were soaked in holy water or something like that.... scary stuff.  

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by walter on Apr 26th, 2009 at 2:10pm
My place is beginning to get a little weird with all the loaded slings hanging around. Dampened the pouch on this one, placed a perfect throwing stone in the pouch and hung it up for a while. It has a really nice cupped shape.  

http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2009/04/26-1110183194T.jpg

Walter

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by castanon93 on Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:23pm
im making one as soon as i get paracord

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Et Cetera on Apr 27th, 2009 at 5:24pm
Looks nice! I gotta make one. Shoot! I was going to ask Stormdrane if he could make a sling, but you beat me to it. His blog is great!
I'll try to make one and post pictures if I can.

Oh, if you don't have a fancy dancy titanium spike like Mr. peacefuljeffery, you can use a knitting needle  :)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by walter on Apr 27th, 2009 at 7:00pm

castanon93 wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:23pm:
im making one as soon as i get paracord


Misread that to say  im making one as soon as i get paranoid. LMAO

Walter

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by dork on Apr 27th, 2009 at 7:10pm
Thats a really nice design. I can't believe I missed it the first time it was posted.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Et Cetera on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:37pm

peacefuljeffrey wrote on Nov 6th, 2008 at 6:06am:
and an "Ashley's Stopper Knot" for the trigger knot.


the knot kind of looks like your picture

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Ashley-stopper-face-ABOK-526.jpg

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on May 2nd, 2009 at 2:13pm

Et Cetera wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:37pm:

peacefuljeffrey wrote on Nov 6th, 2008 at 6:06am:
and an "Ashley's Stopper Knot" for the trigger knot.


the knot kind of looks like your picture

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Ashley-stopper-face-ABOK-526.jpg



Good observation!  In fact, in the Geoffrey Budworth book from which I learned the Ashley Stopper Knot, Budworth says, "A characteristic of the completed knot is a neat trefoil of three overlapping parts on its underside."

So yes, if you've done the knot correctly, you look at the bottom and what you see should look a bit like my "peace knot" avatar.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on May 12th, 2009 at 11:47am
Here's a bump, to let you know that I just finished e-mailing the contents of this tutorial to Chris, so that it may be included (if he decides to) as an article in the How-To section of Slinging.org.

Thank you for the encouragement.  I'm very happy that these instructions have helped some of you make some handsome slings.  :)  I'll be very proud and flattered if they end up posted alongside the excellent tutorials that are already on the site.

-peacefuljeffrey

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rockman on May 12th, 2009 at 2:16pm
Nice work, PJ. I still have a lot of nylon which will become a nice sling from this instructions.

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Et Cetera on May 12th, 2009 at 8:53pm
ooo goody! It might become an article! :)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on May 12th, 2009 at 9:47pm
Well, I e-mailed the contents of the tutorial, with the pictures.  Now it's just up to the big boss.  He said that it might be a little while before he can get to it.  But I've waited this long... heh, I should be able to wait a few more weeks.  It's not like the tutorial isn't available here in this thread, for now.  ;)

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rockman on Jun 25th, 2009 at 11:14pm
Here's my attemp at a 5 strand pouch. I used some nylon instead of paracord and I need a bigger diameter, but got the idea of what to expect. I got a cupped pouch perfect for a spherical projectile. Now I see why you like to use golf balls, this sling is great for that. I messed up the second knot but it's still functional.

I still need to try it, wish I had some golf balls.
PJ5S.jpg (63 KB | )

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Rockman on Jun 25th, 2009 at 11:16pm
Here's next to one of my bigger slings.
pjr.jpg (64 KB | )

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jun 26th, 2009 at 12:50am
Cool, Rockman!
May thou neverest droppeth another rock, again!   :D

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by sling pker on Nov 30th, 2010 at 6:07pm
mine seems to have become backwards....????????? :-? :-/

Title: Re: Build-along for the 5-strand woven paracord sl
Post by Masiakasaurus on Nov 30th, 2010 at 6:16pm

sling pker wrote on Nov 30th, 2010 at 6:07pm:
mine seems to have become backwards....????????? :-? :-/

What do you mean by backwards?

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