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Message started by Chris on Feb 7th, 2005 at 6:15pm

Title: Post Your Ranges
Post by Chris on Feb 7th, 2005 at 6:15pm
This is the official call for sling ranges!  This information will be compiled onto a single page and be a new section on the main site.  

Please post your range, sling length, projectile type, weight, date (approx.), and anything else you think would be useful to add.  

Chris

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Gun on Feb 7th, 2005 at 9:17pm
I have a question that i don't think has ever been asked yet. How do you tell range if you can't find you projectile afterward? I sling near lakes and lake banks so it is hard to find the projectile after i sling it. Laser range finders are too much (at least 300 dollars). Is there any other way, beside walking to where the projectle might have landed, that is fairly acurate?

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by David_T on Feb 7th, 2005 at 10:01pm
Ya gotta find it, to measure it! ;D Find a large field or parking lot--with no cars--or a large construction site where you can see the mark where it lands in the dirt. For you guys in the snow, that may be impossible at this time :-/

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 8th, 2005 at 3:24am
buy cheap bright colored spray paint, another trick I use for egg sinkers is mini light sticks one the larger sinkers they fit right in the hole. Slinging in the at dusk becomes a lot mor fun then.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 8th, 2005 at 3:31am
all right some one had to dive into the water first and since I already compiled most of this info:
this was done on sunday feb 6th with a leather 43 inch sling with a wide grip
Here is my week end report of distances for various ammo's and weight's
heres what I took with me to the abandoned air field
6 foos balls weight about 1.5 ounces or 42.5 grams
6 egg shaped stones all selected for their weight of
3 ounces or 85 grams
6 clay glands 3 ounces or 85 grams
6 weighted golf balls 4 ounces each or 162.50 grams
6 lead egg sinkers 6 ounces or 170 grams
I was totally surprised by what gave me the most distance
these were all cast under hand. my over hand style produce much less distance
the following distances were gained by casting all ammo  
out in one group, say the foo's balls then pace out to them and then back averaging the two pace counts then converting the pace count to yards. then averaging all 6 for each group
foo's balls 96.42 yards or 88.17 meters
stones 193.9 yards or 177.30 meters
clay 162.5 yd. or 148.59 meters
weighted golf balls 214.5 yards or 196 meters
egg sinkers 216 yards or 198.15 meters
I did not suspect that the six ounce egg sinkers would go the furthest
next time I am going to try small egg sinkers and see if i can get that distance up.
one more note most of my shot's landed in a ten foot radius per group. that kinda impressed me.
these were just some different ammo i had laying around except four the weighted golf ball they were weighted heavier  I altered the weight before heading out
oh one last thing  my pace count is converted by paces multiplied length of pace (39 inches)
sum divided by standard (36 inches) to get yards  



Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Matthias on Feb 8th, 2005 at 2:14pm
Thanks Lobohunter. You've got an amazingly consistent throw. As the first to respond to the call for range data, you get the first crunched feedback.

And the calculator says: (Drumroll please....)

48m/s (157.5 fps/107.4mph) - almost the same speed for every throw! It looks like you might be a little quicker with the lighter ammo, but the spread is smaller than I would have thought. With a bunch of assumptions, it looks like foos have about the same behavious as tennis balls.

Moving to "aero" lead might buy you another 15-20m, but you should get an even bigger boost if you can up your speed by a few percent. There is a zone that starts in the mid 50s that pushes the flow into a low-drag pattern. I have a feeling that many of us are just short of hitting the "sweet spot".

Have you posted pictures of your clay glandes, or barring that, would it be possible to measure them?

Thanks!

Matthias

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 8th, 2005 at 4:46pm
well thats very interesting guess I need to get my hyper exelration technique working with under hand
the clay glands are slighty oval 5mm x 4.5mm.
so you are saying that getting into the mid 50t's would increase range. By how much.
This is very interesting, but I admit my main interst is under fifty yards. Infact this is the first time in over six month's I have thrown for range.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by David_T on Feb 8th, 2005 at 7:03pm
Matthias,

Cool stats. "There is a zone that starts in the mid 50s that pushes the flow into a low-drag pattern." What do you mean by this? 50 what??

Thanks, I will see if I can strain my arm this weekend. ;D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 8th, 2005 at 7:10pm
i was going to go to a field to try and find out my ranges and where going down the high way(i was not driving) at about 55 mph and all of a sudden the car starts shaking and it stalls and all sorts of nastyness. Haha i never did get to go measure my slinging distance.

im only a algebra 1 student but dont you have to have the time it took to travel the distance and distance to get speed?

time X distance = speed something like that.

or is there some kind of formula i dont know of?

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Matthias on Feb 8th, 2005 at 7:31pm
Hey guys,

DtB - you are right - if the glans was moving at a constant speed, then you could use the time of flight to work backward. I'm actually "reverse-engineering" the throw by running my simulator to figure out which initial conditions you need to hit the ranges reported. The sim takes into account the size/weight/shape/surface of the glans as well as the throw characteristics and environmental conditions (at least it is _supposed_ to ;D) Basically I punch in the properties for Lobo's golfballs, then see how hard I need to throw it to get the same range!

The "sweet spot" I've mentioned is due to a neat change that happens when the air flowing over the glans transitions from smoothly slipping over to turbulent tumbling around the shape. Contrary to what you might expect, for certain shapes you end up with less drag with the turbulent flow. Hondero posted the "famous" Achenbach results dealing with this effect in our physics thread.

http://www.slinging.org/forum2/yabb/YaBB.cgi?
board=project;action=display;num=1091676756;start=33#33

About halfway down the following page you can see some pictures illustration the effect.

http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/phys136d/modules/m1/bernoulli.htm

The 50s was meant to read as metres per second. once you get to about 60, you start to get the benefit without having to use tricks to manipulated the boundary layer. These "tricks" show up all over the place once you know where to look - I'll put together a list of examples...

Matthias

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by WildAtHeart on Feb 8th, 2005 at 10:10pm
Why can't I get over 150 feet, even with a 51" sling and smooth, easter-egg sized and shaped rocks??? I'm 6'3" and pretty strong I would think I can also throw pretty hard!

Anyhow, there's an idea of my throws with some whining thrown in :)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by David_T on Feb 8th, 2005 at 11:39pm
Hey Wildman,

You must mean 150 yards ??? You must be doing something bad wrong. That is only 60 feet past first base from home plate. Are you sure about that distance?

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Matthias on Feb 9th, 2005 at 12:48am
Could be he needs some SNAP! If that is the case, I'd recommend cutting a sling waaay down to maybe 24" and practicing a bit. The shorter sling is so "fast" that it almost forces ood form on you. Once you have it figured out (150yds is perfectly reasonable with a 2 foot sling) you can go to longer cords and slow things down a bit.

Matthias

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by David_T on Feb 9th, 2005 at 7:42am
Matthias, I agree with you 100%! I on the other hand need to start working on the longer sling. I can sling as far with my 25 inch sling as with my longer ones. Long slings have so much drag I guess.

The short sling is much faster and puts more strain on the arm since it is doing more of the work to get the distance but I think it would be wise for everyone to begin slinging with a sling around 25" (average size man --a younger child would use an even shorter sling)
They are much easier to control and be accurate with. As you feel confident, increase the length. Plus, with longer slings beginners will probably get the projectiles tangled in the cords now and then on release.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by mgreenfield on Feb 9th, 2005 at 9:21am
My vote for starter sling length is fingertip to shoulder.  There seems to be something about sling-length equal to arm length that "feels right".   mgreenfield

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by WildAtHeart on Feb 9th, 2005 at 10:11am
Sorry, I did mean 150yds   ;D

but honestly, my average range is just a little over 100yds, though it is a hilly place and hard to measure.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 9th, 2005 at 5:13pm
that was always my big problem. the hills. thats why i was traveling to a different place.


I use a ling that is from my fingertip to my heart

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by David_T on Feb 9th, 2005 at 6:46pm
Yes! I'm glad it was 150 YARDS

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Zorrro on Feb 10th, 2005 at 7:24am
Thanks a lot for the data collection (Lobohunter) that sure was a lot of work, and the calculation (Matthias). It's very interesting.
I have never measured my sling range cause like Gun, i also use to sling in the mountains over a dam,( flat places are full of people , houses and cars around here, and i'm afraid i can hit someone or cause any damage) hence it's hard to tell distances downhill  and into the water, Anyway this thread has encouraged me to do some measurement  in a piece of land next to my workplace. I hope i can find my projectiles, cause it's a bit uphill and with a lot of gravel and rocks.. I'll use painted rocks like Lobohunter sugested. Also i'll use different slings , my short one balearic style, and my longer last one i've made with the sticking plaster, i'll post the data asap.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Alsatian on Feb 10th, 2005 at 1:42pm
This thread just comes right because I have a question concerning range.

I started with slinging nearly one year ago. It was only possible to sling for range for some weeks because afterwards there was too much grass everywhere. My range in m corresponded more or less to my sling length in cm: 60m with a sling of about 60cm, 100m with a sling of 100cm and about 120m with a sling of 120cm. But I reached this distances only with lighter bullets (perhaps 80-100g). I measured by counting the big steps I made when going to the impact point.

As you see, my range is rather poor compared to the ones of most of you guys. So the question is: Was it a lot of work to pass from distances which just show that you are able to sling - as in my case - to more „professional" distances or were you able to reach them soon after you were able to sling ?

(By the way: Lobohunter, what is a „foos ball" and an „egg sinker" ? I looked in different dictionaries but didn’t find.)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by henryblowery on Feb 10th, 2005 at 1:52pm
Alsatian a lead sinker is a weight that you use for fishing in a ocean (i think thats what hes talking about)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 10th, 2005 at 7:19pm
A foo's ball is a ball from the game foos ball or table soccer. A egg sinker is a lead sinker in the shape of a egg used in ocean fishing and cat fishing

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Zorrro on Feb 11th, 2005 at 12:29pm
This morning i  threw a few stones in the piece of land  close to my work place,  i only did about 10 launchings with my 33" sling, and i reached the road at the end of the  piece of land (direct impact, not rolling after landing) Still have to measure it with a measuring tape, but i think it's in the range of 100 metres, anyway  i have to get a variety of good rocks and try again with different projectile weights, when less people is around, (too many eyes watching :o )I was afraid to hit the factory at the  left side of the lane, so i did'nt was confident to use full power, though i used close to full power.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas on Feb 11th, 2005 at 5:59pm
I find that if I use a heavy stone (around 1 pound=0.5 kg) I can only get about 100 yards, but a 3-ounce lead glande will fly out to 250-300 yards.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Zorrro on Feb 14th, 2005 at 12:37pm
I measured distances this morning with measuring tape, i did 105 meters average, anyway at 150 meters i only have about 40 meters of clearance, (concrete brick factory and houses at the left side and my workplace at the right side along the firing lane) and thus i'm not confident to use full power., but i gues i would only gain a few meters more (may be 20 or 30 more)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by MammotHunter on Feb 15th, 2005 at 12:09pm
111 yards measured with a witness, my friend Justin. Using my 37-inch "DEXA" sling and a fired clay biconical glande weighing about 1.2 ounces. This is not to say that I used my friend Justin to measure the distance like a yardstick or anything just that he was there and witnessed the throw...oh never mind. I think you all know what I mean.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 15th, 2005 at 5:52pm
236 feet with an odd shaped stone. ill get the weight asap. the sling lenght ill also get.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Thomas on Feb 15th, 2005 at 9:07pm
Today was great by northern Ohio standards partly sunny and 61F. Gathered up my slinging gear along with boots and headed to my nearest field.

There was a mild breeze from right to left, maybe 5-10k/h. After I did a few warm-ups with softballs (312g) and they died at about 95m I almost went home.

Four hard baseballs and one cement casting from a tennis ball later I felt more encouraged.    
Only one throw was slightly over 35 deg elevation, in fact 3 or four were around 5- 15 degrees!


Sixteen hardball (148g) throws from a 129cm sling fell between 114 and 132 meters and left good impact marks.

Thomas

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lepidina on Feb 16th, 2005 at 11:09am
Hello,
I am new to the list and in urgent need of some experimental data. I have found last summer during an archaeological dig on a Roman site two baked clay sling shot.

Size:
a)max length: 30 mm max. width: 27 mm weight: 15-20g
b) Dims: 33 mm max. Width: 31 mm weight: < 15 g (my scales aren't that brill :).

They look like sling shot, but are VERY light. Any idea if they would fly at all? How far?
And can you aim with them?
More importantly:  Are they actually any use whatsoever, if you want to fire them in anger, or would they be more of a beginnner's version?

I have had some fun with a catapult (I am useless with a proper sling), and all I proved is that my replicas I break up on impact on a wall or barn door from 20 paces.  :)

Best wishes
lepidina

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Yurek on Feb 16th, 2005 at 1:58pm
Hallo lepidina and welcome,

If I remeber corectly, the ancient Romans used missiles of weight about 20 g. I'm also wondering, if they would be effective enough during battles. Most probably lead missiles would be, but clay ones? One of the forum members, Hondero from Spain, collects oryginal sling projectiles. For sure, he could say much more about them.

Anyway, from my limited experience with very light (20-30g) stones, and light sling, I know, they can fly very quick and far. When they are good shaped, for sure, an experienced in range shoting slinger can send them relatively easily at ranges above 250 m, saying very carefully. Clay missiles, for sure, can fly a bit worse. At my guess, they are able to surpass ranges above 200 m, assmuming, that a light and a rather thin (more aerodynamical) sling is used. Anyway, tests are necessary, for more accurate numbers. Hope, it helps a bit :)

Jurek


Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 16th, 2005 at 4:10pm
where you at in ohio? im in salineville close to canton about 2 hours away. and  yes yesterday was a nice day

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Thomas on Feb 16th, 2005 at 4:50pm
Berea, the home of the illustrious? Cleveland Browns.

Thomas

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by longwinger on Feb 21st, 2005 at 3:25pm
I just finished slinging twenty golf balls, sling is a leather pouch design after Yurek's pattern where the ends over lap, the lines are made from lawn mower pull cord, which is about an eighth of an inch diameter braided line, surgeon's loop on the retention cord and a monkey's fist on the release. Thirty six inches from release knot to center of pouch.
I used a rollotape to measure distance(which is a wheel with a counter and one handle). They ranged from 282 feet to 383 feet. I used the overhead horizontal throw and the under hand. It looked like the underhand ones went the farthest, due to much higher arc of the throw.
I threw into a mowed prairie grass field and I did see most of them bounce one time. The wind is north at ten mph and I was throwing west. I just knew I could throw further, and maybe another day I will, but that is it for now.
Oscar

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Hondero on Feb 24th, 2005 at 8:37am
Hi Lepidina, as Yurek say the clay projectiles are very light, of an average weight of 30 gr. but their shape is usually elliptical and Romans don´t use them except their mercenary troops from Africa. Your projectiles are almost spherical and could be also balls for a kind of game. From where are they?
Hondero

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lepidina on Feb 25th, 2005 at 10:49am
Dear Yurek and Hondero,
Thank you for your messages. IU have since then been looking around some more. These clay sling shot occurs quite widely in Roman forts, from the mid 1st to mid 2nd century, and I found a reference to a cache of 75 of them in the fort at Ardoch in Scotland. Mine come from a neighbouring fort, Drumquhassle on Loch Lomond. And yes one is very nearly a marble (and I originally classified it as such), but the other is the typical biconical shape, just bigger.

I also found a reference in Caesar to slingers firing clay balls that have been heated red hot before being slung into the thatch of a Gallic settlement as an incendiary device.

I am intrigued.
a) how would this work? Surely you would set the sling on fire if you used a normal grass or leather sling.
b) how do you not kill half of your neighbours with misfiring shot?
c) would you prepare pre-baked balls and keep them just in case you need them in your fort?

I just cannot imagine these things working in anything but a siege setting and then it would be easier to make them fresh, instead of carrying them around.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 26th, 2005 at 7:27pm
fired clay is not that heavey if you make small glands. I have fired some and shoved them into my back pack and they did not way me down that much.  My  incendiary device was in a bowl maybe then would put a small clay plate on the bottom of the sling and throw that sucker quickley! I dont know if that would work or not. I may have to try it come summer time.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 26th, 2005 at 7:31pm
err let me clear that up a bit. I use a bowl filled with burning pitch and im trying to mix in different things to get it to burn better. I think maybe they could put a small clay plate or pad in the bottom of the sling? that may keep it from catching the whole works on fire.  or it may not :-/. Ill try it this summer and let you guys know how it works.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 26th, 2005 at 8:59pm
O. k some times I can not resist
THIS DEFINITELY FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

I cut some two inch chunks of one inch mild steel rod
took six put them in the forge heated them to bright yellow about 2500 degree's farenheight. Changed out target to the bottom of old wooden rain barrel. Grabbed old leather sling I no longer use. took leather gloves, gauntlets, tied down smithy apron and old metal hard hat.
Used tongs grab bright yellow chunk of steel carefully inserted into leather pouch, which i spayed with fire retardant (which really stinks when it burns by the way)
using over hand style to hurls before mentioned chunk of steel. I the hit barrel. Went though barrel! Hit the cedar fence.
Cedar fence started smoking. By the time i got there with the hose,it was flaming. Hit barrel again, Went though barrel again. Lost site of gland, seconds later wood rain barrel burning. gland some how got underneath barrel. ended experiment.
I am a professional  black smith do not do this at your house or any where else.
But oh my goodness if you wish to cause great havoc this could work. I do under stand why the Romans would go to such trouble.
Nero would love this maneuver

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by tint on Feb 27th, 2005 at 12:18am
I can't do that at home even if I try. :P

You are the man, Lobohunter (aka the sling addict)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Zorrro on Feb 27th, 2005 at 1:28am
Good one! Lobohubter!  ;D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Feb 27th, 2005 at 9:53am
haha you beat my incendiary by a long shot :) but that sounds very cool i wish i was there. Or had the reasorses to do that kind of thing. Wasent you afraide of catching the whole place on fire? that would of sucked. I try to throw my stuff at a parking lot near a lake. but that sounds very very cool.  ;D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 27th, 2005 at 9:56am
you will notice in the post that I stoped after two shot's even though  I had six heated up. so the anwser is yes

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lepidina on Feb 27th, 2005 at 10:23am
oops, what have I started :-[.
Apart from a mental image that made me chuckle (yes, I do like Wily Coyote), I think we can put that down as successful experiment. These Romans really have a warped sense of the world and what they would like to do with it.  ;D

Please everybody, don't make me responsible for some major fires across two continents. But I would dearly love to quote you in an academic paper. Any objections?

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Feb 27th, 2005 at 10:28am
no objections here

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 1st, 2005 at 8:09am
ive had fire safety ground into me since i could talk :) if you want to quote me go for it :)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by longwinger on Mar 1st, 2005 at 3:46pm
This may be off topic :) but I threw some more golf balls today, I used a 48" sling, release to center of pouch, the pocket is made from 200 lb test braided dacron, ladder fashion as pictured on the gallery. I threw eight balls, using the rolotape I found the first one at 487' and the longest at 562', a signifigant increase over the last group.
Oscar

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Nonkin_Monk on Mar 1st, 2005 at 11:18pm
Over the weekend i went to throw for a bit.  Using rocks off of the ground i could get ranges around 600 ft.  But still pretty far form that new world record.  ;D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 2nd, 2005 at 4:59pm
well we where off topic you are on topic :)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by longwinger on Mar 3rd, 2005 at 6:48am
Over the weekend i went to throw for a bit.  Using rocks off of the ground i could get ranges around 600 ft.  But still pretty far form that new world record.  

That sounds like a good range, can you approximate the rock weight, sling length, etc?
Oscar

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Nonkin_Monk on Mar 3rd, 2005 at 9:26pm
I was using a 36" inch sling with rocks anywhere from 2-3 ounces. Quite a few buzzed out of the puch and would not go very far. Other than that I had pretty good throws. I've been going to baseball workouts all winter long so my arm is in pretty good condition. However I have not been practicing with the sling so I am sure I could improve on my technique.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by sammy atif on Mar 6th, 2005 at 2:19pm
I got about 300' with an ice-egg. It hit a tree and shattered. I filled a plastic easter egg up with water and froze it. Very cheap! The bad thing was that the egg broke getting the ice out.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Yurek on Mar 6th, 2005 at 3:01pm
Yeah, ice-ammo is a good winter ammo. I used to make ice-balls in the very simple and productive way. Simply, very shortly dip snow-balls in water taken from streamlet and let them to get frozen up outdoor. If snow isn't sticky, it is the only way to form balls. Next day I have a nice stock of the 80 - 100 % ice balls. Not perfectly shaped however. I can get about 120 m with them. They also can be re retrieved.

When snow is sticky, I'm too lazy to make the ice-balls and I'm contented with snow-balls. They can't fly as far as the ice-balls, only 60 - 90 m. It depens mainly on the kind of snow. Anyway they are nice, secure short range ammo.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by tint on Mar 12th, 2005 at 1:20am
I went out to a closed golf course to test my range yesturday.  

With a 19 inch sling I could throw a golf ball size rock 190 yards max.  Most of my shots landed around 150 yards.  I use the tennis-serve-overhead style with this sling length.  The sling is made of braided nylon.

Then I tried using my 5 1/2 foot kevlar sling.  I could only use the helicopter style with this length and I threw way past the green (which is 190 yards) of the course and the golf ball size rocks went into the ocean behind it.  My best guess is 215 yards.  I'll have to find another site know my best range for sure. :P






Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by english on Mar 12th, 2005 at 4:56am
Because of the novelty of snow, I had many snowball fights in Germany, and I often used my scarf like a sling.  Worked very well, actually.  I wasn't expecting anything good, and I expecting the snowballs to disintegrate in the improvised sling.  But it worked well enough to enable me to hit people at longer range than with hands.  I'd say about a thirty yard range, no sweat.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 12th, 2005 at 9:14am
yes if your throwing snowballs you want a big wide sling. THe smaller ones when you swing them the snow ball just falls apart. the scarf on the other hand keeps it all together.

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 12th, 2005 at 11:29am
Pics forthcoming of me slinging while:


Roller blading

Sunbathing in a hammock (In full swing mind you)

'Hiking'...football center style

Free falling from a plane at 40,000 feet.....ultimately timing the release at the moment I pull the chute for an added 'snap' to eke out more distance

Flipping both forward and backward on a trampoline to augment the overhand AND underhand release methods

From the sunroof of a Porsche 911 at 75mph....I plan to have the driver slam on the brakes at release for an added boost!

And last but not least,  I am currently doing a feasibility study on the dynamics of slinging at the moment of take off from a ski jump.....I believe there just may be something positive to take from the famous, 'Eddie the eagle' jumping style, which should improve my distance shots.  I will probably use snowballs and the helicopter sling style to start with......and move on from there.


Oh, and lest I forget....


I might sneak a few shots off a 'tilt-a-whirl' at the carnival this year,  I can only hope I don't get caught before I get the timing down..... :-/

I really wanted to get a 'gland' off while being ejected from KITT, the Knight Rider car.....but that arrogant Bat Rastard Hasselhoff won't return my calls....


Buddum Bum.


Thanks Folks.....I'll be here all week!

8)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Matthias on Mar 12th, 2005 at 2:20pm

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Yurek on Mar 12th, 2005 at 4:07pm
LOL

TechStuf, the RANGE of your oratory is the biggest on the slinging.org, no doubts  ::)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 12th, 2005 at 6:14pm
hahaha!  :D

go for it man!

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 12th, 2005 at 9:47pm
Thanks.....but apples to apples....Yurek, I would say you have me beat in consideration that English is not your native tongue.

If this site were Polish.....I, yes....ME, TechStuf......would actually be at a loss for words.  (insert Rod Serling theme here.)

:)


Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 13th, 2005 at 11:53am
tech did you make a mistake?  ;D you always have  8) this at the end of your posts ;D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 13th, 2005 at 12:59pm
Ok, you might as well know,  my mind's eye is a little light sensitive.......Some days are a little better than others.   Caught me on a good day!


Peace,


TechStuf out

8) (crap, there it goes again)

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 14th, 2005 at 2:51pm
:)

Title: 610+m throw!
Post by Matthias on Mar 14th, 2005 at 5:27pm
Verifiable! Except that I didn't actually throw anything, because doing so would have been very irresponsible... Spent yesterday dragging my winter-softened self up the "Stawamus Chief", that they _say_ is the second largest granite monolith in the world... I went up the *easy* way (hey I'm way less sore than first outing last year), but thought that these pics might be appreciated. The lip in the first photo is a sheer drop, and those houses are at sea level+... I'm using a 300m lens here on a dslr, so that's about a "15X" zoom in street terms. The second photo shows a couple of climbers around halfway up the face. I don't know exactly what they are up to, as I took this as the sun was setting, and it certainly didn't look like they had gear to spend the night on the wall.

Enjoy,

Matthias




Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 14th, 2005 at 8:38pm
Great view!  Do you free-climb as well?  I don't know if I found 'waldo' or not in the second photo.....I think I got em....the lead climber is the little red speck in the lower center of the pic.


At the present pace, you'll be ready for 'Trango tower' by the end of spring!

If I were privileged to live near the 'Chief'.....I wouldn't be without a fun way down.....

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Peace,

TS out

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Matthias on Mar 14th, 2005 at 9:58pm
No kidding... for this type of pursuit I'd prefer a soft canopy for easy packability but same idea. The first pic is looking back over Squamish - the main face is to the W/SW toward the ocean (where a group of kiteboarders were tearing it up). The back faces onto the coast mountains. I walked up :( I'm not sure if there is a big enough launch spot for me to convince myself to leave the top though. I've got a pretty healthy attitude toward edges ;D

I figured that the colour would still be enough resized to that scale. The blowup in the pic below is still reduced, so you can get an idea of the size of the original!

Matthias

 

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 14th, 2005 at 10:44pm
Dang Thias.....what do you got, an 8Mp camera?  I've got pixel envy over here!

I am a bit of a tech geek....and succumbed to the pre-launch buzz surrounding the Casio Exilim EX-P505....although not a true single lens reflex camera, it, like various other hybrids, is erroneously labeled a mini 'slr'.  If the EX-P505 is a harbinger of possibilities to come.......we would be seeing some serious micro 'headgear' photography/video options within 3yrs.  We're talking fairly unobtrusive, mid to high Mp range camera/glasses hybrids.  

Of course we could talk about Optic nerve signal decoder 'WiFi' stuff....but that's for another time.... :-X


Put that on your paraglider and shoot it.  (lol)


(And pleeez make sure to post pictures of you slinging while on the way down!)


L8R,

TechStuf

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Mar 15th, 2005 at 4:52am
Matthias; great pic reminds me of my desire for a new hobby para foiling not popular as yet in oregon.
but I have rented the gear a couple of times I am looking to buy my own para foil. we have a lot of mountains with clear cuts here perfect for taking off.
they say the average ride is 100 miles. my couple so far
have been in the thirty's, but still. after I get gear and a average up to average. I bet that sling go's with me.
Doe's range count at 4000ft elevation. And does a sling stone make a sound when it crashes to the ground in a wilderness with no one to hear

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by TechStuf on Mar 15th, 2005 at 10:38am
Parafoiling.......I've heard the term in reference to a type of Kite sport.  If the term is accurate, then it must be new indeed....Always thought that the sport of Paragliding already encompassed use of the Parafoil.  

In contrast, (perhaps) to 'Parafoiling',  the sport of Paragliding has been around awhile and I believe the current distance record is 263 miles!

Sure miss the NorthWest.....Almost bought a UP Firefly (hang glider) off a guy in Boise one time.  He gave a demonstration flight at Camel's Back park.  The hill was long and ran parallel to a long, slender park (years ago, at the time).  The guy knew his stuff and made a graceful turn directly after launch to glide into the park, parallel with the hill.....really takes his chances as the landing corridor is narrow, real narrow.  He makes his approach between trees and playground equipment......out of nowhere this kid on a bike just stops, paralyzed,  right in the middle of the park....I'm talking dead center in the flight path.  The guy waves him off but the kid won't budge....I often wish I had a camcorder at that moment.  The guy does the 'dolphin' to try and eke out enough glide time to clear the kid and ends up nose down just beyond the kid,  the glider's nose with a nice kink in it.  

Been missing the sport ever since!


:)



Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Mar 15th, 2005 at 4:35pm
i would hike up the moutan but theres no way your getting me to paraglide down it. :D im too much of a chicken poopy for that kindof thing.  :D

Title: Re: Post Your Ranges
Post by lobohunter on Mar 16th, 2005 at 8:11pm
o.k you caught   my exciment to purchase a para foil to para glide. any way,  not real popular in oregon yet. at least not like other place's (hmm wonder how high I woud have to get to hit nebraska from here  ;D.)

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