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Message started by nwmanitou on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 9:05pm

Title: Archery
Post by nwmanitou on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 9:05pm
Just curious as to how many here on the board are into archery? And if so, what do you shoot?

I've just been hit with a terrible case of wanderlust/cabin fever. Mostly because a friend of mine is headed out bowhunting in 3 weeks and I'm not.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by JeffH on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 9:22pm
There are some earlier posts on this.

I shoot bows, myself.  I have made two longbows from sawn boards.  They both shot well.  The first busted, the second still shoots.  I also shoot a Martin Mamba recurve.  Very fast!

This is my favorite of the "throwing" sports (except for maybe the slingshot).  In the earlier posts are some pics of my gear.  At the present time, the only things i have not made are my shooting glove and the string on my bow.  All the rest are my own craftings.

jeff <><

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 10:59pm
I love archery....loved it so much I had to quit.  I may take it up again as I still have much equipment.  When I do shoot again,  it will have to be as a lefty because my spine is quite curved between the shoulder blades....hopefully this will restore some semblance of normalcy.   I am also working on a prototype hybrid bow that will either be the best of both worlds (traditional and compound) or the new bastard child of the industry.  The physics are sound and upon crunching the numbers several times....it should prove to be the fastest bow on the planet.  As I do not yet have provisional patent status I cannot divulge more at this time......It will have a low dynamic hysteresis compared to other bows and will have a higher energy storage capacity for it's weight than virtually any other bow on the market.....should it reach production.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Gun on Aug 3rd, 2004 at 12:08pm
I shoot alot during the earily fall and winter. I shoot a Bear compond bow 65lb, a PSE coyote recurve 55lb, and a Bear monatana longbow 50lb. All of them are great bows. my compond is used exlusively for deer and turkey. The recure is the all round bow. Since it takes down, i take it just about everywhere and shoot about anything with it from squirrels and deer to fish and long range targets. The long bow is a great shooter bow but i don't like to take it hunting since it is so nice looking.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Chris on Aug 3rd, 2004 at 6:53pm
I'm an avid, but part time archer.  I have a 40# traditional recurve.  

Chris

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Johnny on Aug 4th, 2004 at 11:13am
I'm an archer and bowyer.
I'm getting close to finishing a Turko/Mongol asiatic recurve. It has 3 layers of sinew on it at this point. You have to wait 2 weeks(the ancients would wait months!) in between layers before gluing down the next. I will put another on this weekend. The glue I use is traditional hide glue, heated in a double burner. Maybe I will have it strung by the end of September. I will get some pics up if it doesn't blow at first draw!!

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Shaun on Aug 4th, 2004 at 11:45am
Archery is one of my favorite hobbies, The bow I usually use is a 25-30# recurve. I haven't gotten to practice since I broke my arm though :'(

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 6th, 2004 at 11:49pm
Johnny,  you ever try Bingham projects?  Reasonable prices.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Mithras on Aug 7th, 2004 at 11:59am
I shoot a 45lb Grozer bow (that's a Mongolian recurve bow). Its not one of the top of the range models, its a Szakita, worth about 150.

It's suitable as a Roman-era bow and I use it as such. I'm practicing using a bronze thumb ring - Syrian style. I made a leather armguard after a carving on Trajan's Column and my own leather quiver.  

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Gun on Aug 7th, 2004 at 4:39pm
Techstuff have you tried the Bingham projects bows? I have seen them in catalogs, but i have never bought one yet.

Mithras how do you like using the thumb rings? How do they compare with shooting tabs?

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Mithras on Aug 7th, 2004 at 7:08pm
Gun, thumb-rings aren't intuitive ... you know? But I think with lots of practice I can get the release nice and smooth. At the moment the point of release is a jerky affair.

You certaibly need to keep your thumb-nail short or it will snap the end off ... ouch !

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Johnny on Aug 8th, 2004 at 7:55am
Tech
What are "Bingham projects"? Archery stuff?
Johnny

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 8th, 2004 at 1:27pm
How did you guess?!   Yep.  Traditional archery supplies.  ;)

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Gun on Aug 8th, 2004 at 3:52pm
They sell almost done bows.
http://www.binghamprojects.com/features.htm
They look like they sell good stuff. This would be good for the begineer.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 9th, 2004 at 12:17pm
Gun,  in answer to your question,  Yes,  I prefer Bingham to various other companies for their after market selection and service.  The sky's the limit with what they have to offer.  A do it your selfer's dream!   I am currently working on a POC (Proof of Concept) model at 1/2 scale.  This coupled with a CGI animation will hopefully get this one off the table.  

Title: Re: Archery
Post by Gun on Aug 9th, 2004 at 1:49pm
How many bows have you bought from them? any certin model you recomend?

The thing with Bingham projects is that the bows are cheap (no not cheaply made). The one I remember seeing was a recurve unfinished for about $60.

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 10th, 2004 at 2:11pm
I have not purchased any bows from them.  One can purchase a myriad of supplies for the making of your own bow, however.   My current needs are being fulfilled by using lamination kits,  as I have the rest squared away.   It is rather against my nature, it seems, to do things conventionally.  And for those of us with this affliction,  Bingham Projects is right up our alley!   Here is a good place to start......

http://www.binghamprojects.com/starting.htm






Title: Re: Archery
Post by Johnny on Aug 10th, 2004 at 2:43pm
Tech
have you ever made a Yumi style bow? I've looked over the design of these bows and think I can make one slightly shorter(for a 28 inch draw) and without the bamboo. Maybe laminate up some hickory. What do ya think? The main thing(as in all bows) is not to over strain one limb. It doesn't matter if the bow is symmetrical or asymmetrical.
Johnny

Title: Re: Archery
Post by TechStuf on Aug 10th, 2004 at 4:05pm
Interesting that you mention the Yumi.  Although I have never made a Yumi bow, I have studied their dynamics after taking up the bow.  A residual interest from my martial arts days and having observed Kyudo being practiced on occasion.   I have never built a Yumi bow as my interests have run (as usual) more toward sheer efficiency/utilitarianism.   They are, however, truly works of art!  Jaap Koppedrayer, a North American authority on Kyudo, is quite proficient with the Yumi, having made various pieces, himself.  He will be at this year's International Horse Archery Festival.  

http://www.intlhorsearchery.org/press_release_2004.htm

This festival is held yearly at Fort Dodge, IA.  and is a real treat!  Last year they had a raffle of one of the bows used on the set of "The last Samurai".   Meg Beshey, wife of Dave Beshey is certainly the driving force behind the event.   Met them at last year's Nebraska traditional archer's event.   Jaap Koppedrayer's ability is something to be emulated, certainly.  He is well versed in all aspects of the Yumi style.

Here is a pic of Jaap:

http://www.hornbow.com/past.html


Johnny,  If you can swing it,  This year's IHAF at Fort Dodge is well worth attending, and being centrally located, draws in quite the attendance!


P.S.  With your sense of style and ability.....I think you could build a rock solid performer of any design you put your mind to!   A purist would be hard pressed to resist the temptation to use Bamboo in a Yumi bow....It would be interesting to see your take on it.   Why not a hickory Yumi!  






Title: Re: Archery
Post by Johnny on Aug 10th, 2004 at 4:58pm
I'm familiar with the event at Fort Dodge. Looks like a real blowout! I'm also a big fan of Japp's bows, he does wonderful work! What I may try to do is a hickory/bamboo laminate. I'll even try to rope it up and hammer in the wedges(I'm sure you're familiar with the way they glue together the laminates). My family and I are going to Disney(Orlando) in September, so I don't have any extra vacation time and moo-la to go anywhere until next year!!!!

Title: Re: Archery
Post by english on Aug 12th, 2004 at 5:09am
A wooden Yumi is actually basically what the earliest Japanese bows were - at least, they were long, thin, assymmeticral, etc.  Very easy to make, to be honest, from a single piece of wood.  They'd probably make a good survival bow, actually.

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